T.s.sirtalis genetics question

[infernalis]

I wish I knew where it came from, I was googling GS images, and it was one of them.

Handsome little devil!

Cheers,
Wayne

[Lori P]

Oooh, I like that little red snake!!

[adamanteus]

In that case, Wayne, I would suggest that 'snakeman' is right, and it's probably T.ordinoides.

[drache]

it's a beautiful snake

[snakeman]

I remember the snake you are talking about.Have nt heard anything else about that snake.Have'nt heard anything about the scaleless eastern that was found a couple of years ago either.

[adamanteus]

Scaleless? What? Literally scaleless, as in 'no scales'?

[Snake lover 3-25]

??????????????

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow it's true!!!!!!!

Scaleless Texas ratsnake

[el lobo]

Melanistic is a recessive gene.Flame is a co-dominant gene.If you breed a high red flame to a normal snake.You will get some flames.Some will be normal and will become adults and still look normal.Just because they came from a flame does'nt mean they will produce flames .It is not a het. gene.

What he said. haha. It is definitely not dominant. >

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

Looks like a northwestern garter.They have all kinds of weird colors.I once saw a pic of underneath a board.There was 5 northwestern garters and every one was a different color.

Yes, this guy looks like an ordinoides for sure! But to be sure you should do the scale row, and supra- and infra-labial scale counts.