Mike, kudos to you for typing that much. My eyes might actually be bleeding now LOL. I for one have no problem with you or your opinions on snakes. I think a lot of the points you make are extremely valid, and are often things that everyone else is either unwilling to say, or refuses to be open to. What it boils down to is that we all have one thing in common... we love snakes. And we care so much about them that we are seriously passionate about being SO RIGHT about how we keep them. Let's all remember that we as snake lovers must remain allies, as we have no other allies in this world. There is not one solution to snake keeping that is absolutely right. What works for me, and what works for the next person, are not the same and they should not be the same.... just as some people feed their snakes in separate containers, and I feed my snakes in their enclosures. And there are people out there who think that is wrong, and will try and press that upon me, and I politely tell them to shove it! I don't have any business telling them they are wrong for feeding their snakes in boxes, and the same should hold true for them. There is nothing more destructive in our hobby than keepers who think their methods are absolutely the best and they feel the need to smear everyone else who does it differently. If everyone would agree to disagree, the world would be a better place.