Ribbons and garters,, ^^

[Ringosmama]

how exactly can you tell the differance from a garter and a ribbon?? i mean to me they look alot alike, my baby has little stripes but i can never tell im oretty sure hes a garter but.. i could be wrong

[Stefan-A]

Ribbons have a little bright white bar in front of the eyes, no labial markings and the lateral stripe is in the third and fourth scale rows, instead of the second and third like on most other garters.

[ConcinusMan]

They just have different look that is very recognizable to me, especially the head and face. They are generally longer and much thinner than garters too. Stripes are always very well defined and bold on a ribbon.

Take a look at how long and thin the body is on a ribbon snake:



And now, a garter: (note how the head and face look too)



And now a ribbon snake head and face:



It's kinda hard to explain but for some reason, I always recognize a ribbon snake and I don't mistake them for garters.

[Stefan-A]

I don't mistake them for garters.

They are garters.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Not buying that.

[infernalis]

Thamnophis is Thamnophis, no contest.

The term "ribbon snake" was created as a description of the long slender build.

"Garter snake" was derived from the stripes resembling the garters that held up socks.

However you want to look at it.. Thamnophis is the classification for both snakes.


Ribbon snakes are slender and long.




Non ribbon snakes are thicker and stockier.

[Stefan-A]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Not buying that.

Just stating a fact. Not asking you to buy anything.

[ConcinusMan]

Thamnophis is Thamnophis, no contest.

The term "ribbon snake" was created as a description of the long slender build.

"Garter snake" was derived from the stripes resembling the garters that held up socks.

However you want to look at it.. Thamnophis is the classification for both snakes.


Ribbon snakes are slender and long.




Non ribbon snakes are thicker and stockier.

Agreed. They are all Thamnophis. But I wouldn't call all "homo" human beings. And clearly ribbon snakes are different or they would just call them garter snakes

[mustang]

wow similarities and differences pop up now between the garters and ribbons that i havent noticed before

[Stefan-A]

Agreed. They are all Thamnophis. But I wouldn't call all "homo" human beings.

And why not?