whats this and where can i get one like this? :>

[kazariel]

hey there,

i found this picture and would like to know what kind of garter this really is. its titeled with elegans terrestris, but all other pics i've seen from this snake were different ...

http://www.toothandscale.com/photos/...is_elegans.jpg

perhaps anybody can tell me what it is

thanks and greetings

kaza

[BUSHSNAKE]

that is what they say it is...and real nice one, along the coast of their range in California they come in red phase

[ssssnakeluvr]

its a western terrestrial or coast garter thamnophis elegans terrestris....they can have varying amounts of red color.... I don't know anyone breeding them at this time

[infernalis]

Now I want one

[ConcinusMan]

Used to find those very numerous right on the beach along CA highway 1 near Big Sur on a warm spring day. Very very musky I remember that much. Nothing but surf, very little beach and lots of rocks. Of course, just a few hundred yards or so inland across the highway was plenty of open grassland.

[charles parenteau]

this snake is very nice ....i saw all thoses pictures just awesome...

[ConcinusMan]

They're even more impressive in person. I wondered myself why nobody has any of these. They do have a somewhat limited range but so do other garters that are available to us.

[BUSHSNAKE]

there is a couple garter sp. that should be available and theyre not, Goldenheaded, Yellowthroat, etc.

[tspuckler]

Coast Garters are pretty much endemic to California. For this reason they are not widely available (like Santa Cruz, Diablo Range, Sierra Garters, etc.). They can be quite common in the right habitat and are highly variable. Here are a few I found while vacationing in California last month:

Example like the one originally posted:


"Low Red" Coast Garter:



"Checkerboard" version - I found 5 of these in 20 minutes in a very public place:




I also found a pair of Santa Cruz Garters, here's the female:



The male wasn't too thrilled about being caught:



And last, but not least, although "beat up," this Diablo Range Garter was a nice find:



All snakes were photographed and released at their point of capture.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, pretty much good examples of the T. elegans I have found in CA. And yes, when you find them, there are a lot of them.

Coast Garters are pretty much endemic to California. For this reason they are not widely available (like Santa Cruz, Diablo Range, Sierra Garters, etc.).

So? T.s. concinnus (true concinnus) are only found in SW WA and NW Oregon. CA red-sided garters are also limited to CA. Plenty of both snakes available.