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    Question Thamnophis in Europe?

    I was recently trying to glean some perspective on the different species and subspecies of Thamnophis. I've learned that there are 13 different species and 40 subspecies native to North America. However; I haven't been able to find anything about Thamnophis native to Europe.
    Does anybody have any basic information? The names of a couple garters would be really nice.

    By the way, are garters found in any of the other continents: Africa, Australia...Asia? I've tried to google it but have always come up empty.

    Any and all information is appreciated. Thank you.

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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    thamnophis are american species
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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    yup only in north america
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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    Thamnophis are native only to north america!!
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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    Thank you! - That really helped.

    I feel really sorry for all the other people, who can't experience these cute, little snakes. I can't imagine another species serving as an adequate substitute. It's such a tragedy!!!

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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    yes but they can have san fran garters which SOOOO makes up for it lol
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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe View Post
    Thamnophis are native only to north america!!
    And Central America.

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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    In Europe we have Natrix, which is also very fun to observe. They are also fish/amphibian eaters and you can keep them in the same way as Thamnophis
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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    Indeed. Natrix are similar in many ways to Thamnophis and Nerodia, sort of the European equivalent! Nice snakes.
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    Re: Thamnophis in Europe?

    Not meaning to hijack the thread but how and when did Thamnophis get across to Europe? Can they still be exported to Eurpoe with special permits or are you all working from groups that where established there before. Did it spring out of international zoo cooperation, smuggling or what. I'm just curious as to how it happened and do you have access to a fresh gene pool. Other than Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia how do you replace what you have and still introduce different genes to the mix.
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