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    Exclamation Mad Garter Disease?!?

    I have a Thamnophis sirtalis similis (Fl Blue) that has apparently gone crazy. It is acting out completely defensively - ribs flatten, striking at nothing, the works. I've NEVER seen this type of behavoir from this snake, and have had it for about 5 years. Nothing is different about the cage than when I first set it up years ago.

    Has anyone ever seen anything like this before? He's gone from a normal snake to completely crazy in the last 2 hours...

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    Wow that's weird... So the only change is aggression at nothing after 5 years of calm behavior? Does anyone have any idea 'cause I don't...
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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    Pain? Irritation from something like mites or parasites? Thiamin deficiancy? How old was it when you got it?
    Tami

    Oh. Because you know, it seems to me that, aside
    from being a little mentally ill, she's pretty normal.

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    It sounds as if something is irritating the crap out of it.

    What are the temps?? Is it too hot??

    I'd try putting it in a tote and placing it somewhere dark and cool to settle it down.


    I wish I could more helpful

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    I've had a few 'Florida Blues' that have had a real attitude, I think they're known for it........
    I can't explain the sudden change in temperament though.
    James.

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    Yeah, it's a bizarre situation. I work with 200 species of reptiles, and haven't seen anything like this. I'm pretty sure that this is some sort of health issue be it neurological (age, unknown disease, etc) or otherwise.

    I know the issue is not with husbandry. While he never took to rodents, I've always been able to hand fed him various fish (salmon, trout, tilapia, tuna - scraps from everything the fish market has) with Sticky Tongue Farms Miner-All suppliment, so I don't think that Thiaminese should be the cause of this. I've not heard of any symptoms of Thiaminese to know for sure though.

    edit: yes, I've covered the cage and killed the lighting to try to calm him. I can still hear him wrestling around though.

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Nothing View Post
    I work with 200 species of reptiles.
    Wow. That's a lot. I'd like to see photos of your set-up.
    James.

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    House of Reptiles
    not many pics there though...

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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    What are the temps?
    0.1 Storeria dekayi
    Hoping to get some T. s. sirtalis High-Reds next summer!


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    Re: Mad Garter Disease?!?

    I understand the importance of temperatures...

    Water temp (there is an 8 gallon "pond") - 72F
    Basking temp - 86.2F
    everywhere else temp - 70.6F

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