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    Thamnophis species and subspecies

    OK, I'd like a bit of feedback concerning the following list of scientific and common names. Anything missing or incorrect? There's another list in Wikipedia, but I don't trust its accuracy. Neither do I trust the source I used completely, the Rossman et al book. A few have been added afterwards.



    1. Thamnophis angustirostris (Longnose Garter Snake)

    2. Thamnophis atratus (Pacific Coast Aquatic Garter Snake)
    T. a. atratus (Santa Cruz garter snake)
    T. a. hydrophilus (Oregon garter snake)
    T. a. zaxanthus (Diablo Range garter snake)

    3. Thamnophis bogerti (Bogert's Garter Snake)

    4. Thamnophis brachystoma (Short-Headed Garter Snake)

    5. Thamnophis butleri (Butler's Garter Snake)

    6. Thamnophis chrysocephalus (Golden-Headed Garter Snake)

    7. Thamnophis conanti (Conant's Garter Snake)

    8. Thamnophis couchii (Sierra Garter Snake)

    9. Thamnophis cyrtopsis (Black-Necked Garter Snake)
    T. c. collaris (Tropical blackneck garter snake)
    T. c. cyrtopsis (Western blackneck garter snake)
    T. c. ocellatus (Eastern blackneck garter snake)

    10. Thamnophis elegans (Western Terrestial Garter Snake)
    T. e. elegans (Mountain garter snake)
    *T. e. terrestris (Coast garter snake)*
    T. e. vagrans (Wandering garter snake)

    11. Thamnophis eques (Mexican Garter Snake)
    T. e. eques (Mexican garter snake)
    T. e. megalops (Northern Mexican garter snake)
    T. e. virgatenuis

    12. Thamnophis errans (Mexican Wandering Garter Snake)

    13. Thamnophis exsul (Exiled Garter Snake)

    14. Thamnophis fulvus (Mesoamerican Highlands Garter Snake)

    15. Thamnophis gigas (Giant Garter Snake)

    16. Thamnophis godmani (Godman's Garter Snake)

    17. Thamnophis hammondii (Two-Striped Garter Snake)

    18. Thamnophis lineri (Liner's Garter Snake)

    19. Thamnophis marcianus (Checkered Garter Snake)
    T. m. bovallii
    T. m. marcianus
    T. m. praeocularis

    20. Thamnophis melanogaster (Mexican Black-Bellied Garter Snake)
    T. m. canescens (Gray blackbelly garter snake)
    T. m. chihuahuaensis (Chihuahuan blackbelly garter snake)
    T. m. linearis (Lined blackbelly garter snake)
    T. m. melanogaster (Mexican blackbelly garter snake)

    21. Thamnophis mendax (Tamaulipan Montane Garter Snake)

    22. Thamnophis nigronuchalis (Southern Durango Spotted Garter Snake)

    23. Thamnophis ordinoides (Northwestern Garter Snake)

    24. Thamnophis postremus (Tepalcatepec Valley Garter Snake)

    25. Thamnophis proximus (Western Ribbon Snake)
    T. p. alpinus (Chiapas Highland ribbon snake)
    T. p. diabolicus (Aridland ribbon snake)
    T. p. orarius (Gulf coast ribbon snake)
    T. p. proximus (Western ribbon snake)
    T. p. rubrilineatus (Redstripe ribbon snake)
    T. p. rutiloris (Mexican ribbon snake)

    26. Thamnophis pulchrilatus (Yellow-Throated Garter Snake)

    27. Thamnophis radix (Great Plains Garter Snake, Plains Garter Snake)

    28. Thamnophis rossmani (Rossman's Garter Snake)

    29. Thamnophis rufipunctatus (Narrow-Headed Garter Snake)

    30. Thamnophis sauritus (Eastern Ribbon Snake)
    T. s. nitae (Bluestripe ribbon snake)
    T. s. sackenii (Peninsula ribbon snake)
    T. s. sauritus (Eastern ribbon snake)
    T. s. septentrionalis (Northern ribbon snake)

    31. Thamnophis scalaris (Mexican Alpine Blotched Garter Snake, Longtail Alpine Garter Snake)

    32. Thamnophis scaliger (Mesa Central Blotched Garter Snake, Short-tail Alpine Garter Snake)

    33. Thamnophis sirtalis (Common Garter Snake)
    T. s. annectens (Texas garter snake)
    T. s. concinnus (Red-spotted garter snake)
    T. s. dorsalis (New Mexico garter snake)
    T. s. fitchi (Valley garter snake)
    T. s. infernalis (California red-sided garter snake)
    T. s. pallidulus (Maritime garter snake)
    T. s. parietalis (Red-sided garter snake)
    T. s. pickeringii (Puget Sound garter snake)
    T. s. semifasciatus (Chicago garter snake)
    T. s. similis (Blue-striped garter snake)
    T. s. sirtalis (Eastern garter snake)
    T. s. tetrataenia (San Francisco garter snake)

    34. Thamnophis sumichrasti (Sumichrast's Garter Snake)

    35. Thamnophis validus (Mexican Pacific Lowlands Garter Snake)
    T. v. celaeno
    T. v. isabelleae
    T. v. thamnophisoides
    T. v. validus
    Last edited by Stefan-A; 02-13-2009 at 05:30 PM. Reason: updated the list

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    nice work stefan.
    now i can spend even more time on google lol

    And there are people still out there that think there is only one "garden" snake lol
    Josh

    0.0.2 T.s.sirtalis



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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    That right Josh and should keep them in a paludarium
    as a beginner
    Allready waiting for the sommer
    best wishes bis bald Udo
    Breeding Redsides EGSA-Chairman

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    Stefan,
    Under the forums care sheets:
    Thamnophis atratus zananthus- Diablo Range

    Thamnophis rossmani- Rossman's Garter

    The above are the only two species not on your list. Couldn't find any errors on any listed. Great job.
    Sid
    9.14 T. s sirtalis, 2.2. T. ordinoides, 1.1 T. e vagrans, 1.1 T. s parietalis,
    1.0 T. s sackenii- Peninsular Ribbon

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    Seems to me that few people keep them long enough to actually learn something about them. That's how we end up with otherwise really experienced snake keepers, who know practically nothing about garter snakes.

    Sid,
    Rossman's garter is #31.

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Seems to me that few people keep them long enough to actually learn something about them. That's how we end up with otherwise really experienced snake keepers, who know practically nothing about garter snakes.

    Sid,
    Rossman's garter is #31.
    Sorry, don't know how I missed that
    Sid
    9.14 T. s sirtalis, 2.2. T. ordinoides, 1.1 T. e vagrans, 1.1 T. s parietalis,
    1.0 T. s sackenii- Peninsular Ribbon

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    the diablo range garter snake... got a typo.... thamnophis atratus zaxanthus....

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    Yeah, I noticed that the second I tried to google for it.

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    Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    there's a page in the California herps site...cool looking snake..wish I could get a few!!!!!!

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    Cool Re: Thamnophis species and subspecies

    Thamnophis angustirostris - Longnose Garter Snake. Mexico (Federal, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Sonora and Durango).
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