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[ProXimuS]

I can't tell whether it's infernalis or tetrataenia?
I'm still trying to learn and quiz myself but this one is stumping me

[Invisible Snake]

It is a Tetrataenia aka San Francisco Garter Snake.

[mikem]

tetrataenia

[guidofatherof5]

Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia (San Francisco garter)

[ProXimuS]

Awesome! That's what I was thinking, because I didn't see those almost checkered black markings on the red areas that the infernalis seem to have, but since he's curled up I wasn't sure.
I've decided the infernalis and tetrataenia are two of my favorites so far

Thanks guys

[guidofatherof5]

Awesome! That's what I was thinking, because I didn't see those almost checkered black markings on the red areas that the infernalis seem to have, but since he's curled up I wasn't sure.
I've decided the infernalis and tetrataenia are two of my favorites so far

Thanks guys

Join the crowd.

[ProXimuS]

Is it true the tetrataenia are endangered and illegal to own?

[kibakiba]

Yes, unless you're outside of the US. They seem to be extremely inbred, though.

[ssssnakeluvr]

In the United States it is. Back in the 70's a legally acquired group was shipped to Europe. They have been reproducing since then. They can breed and sell them, just not to us over here in the states. they may have the holy grail of garters over there....but we have garters of all types in our back yards

[ProXimuS]

Thats a shame....I guess I will have to admire them through pictures, and one day maybe see one in the wild. I have an uncle in San Francisco, now I would have two reasons to go visit

And Don I like your outlook....we do have many awesome garters that occurr in our country naturally.