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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyHedgehog View Post
    firstly they are not as likely to produce offspring being different sub species
    Sub species would most definitely produce offspring, more or less capable of reproducing; I successfully ((accidentally mind you too!)) crossed Thamnophis marcianus marcianus with Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis and all of the babies were born healthy with no deformities aside from one. As far as if they're fertile, this would be risky to test.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    ooops, ok I stand corrected, I have tried not to mix so haven't had experience, but I was led to believe that when I first asked the question...
    sorry,
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Lexa, don't do it. Please? Please stay within your sub species. Get really good looking mates to go with what you and your friend have.

    PLEASE DO NOT HYBRIDIZE (did I spell that rite??)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garter_Gertie View Post
    Lexa, don't do it. Please? Please stay within your sub species. Get really good looking mates to go with what you and your friend have.

    PLEASE DO NOT HYBRIDIZE (did I spell that rite??)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I agree.

    As badly as you might want to try breeding snakes, please wait until you have a matching pair.
    Last edited by Stefan-A; 08-20-2008 at 02:22 PM.

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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    I agree.

    As badly as you might want to try breeding snakes, please wait until you have a matching par.
    And if you have a matching pair of hybrids?

    KIDDING!!! I prolly just gave Kyle a heart attack but couldn't resist being sassy with stefan

    And again let me say that I am KIDDING!!! They were visually sexed & hopefully I have two males and if not they'll be seperated next year and not bred.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    I agree.

    As badly as you might want to try breeding snakes, please wait until you have a matching pair.

    (CRASH!) (Body hits floor falling outta chair)

    What? What? I'm fussy headed... Where am I?

    I dreamed Stefan agreed with me...

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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    If one wants to try this and not cross boundaries, I suggest a Florida blue Sirtalis crossed with a flame Sirtalis.

    However, your resulting litter would be blue babies and red babies, not too sure of the purple babies, or it would already have been done.

    That would be like crossing an albino with a Melanistic in hopes of Grey offspring. or checkered flag babies....

    Never seen any of those either.

    However not entirely out of the question, there is one example of an albino flame that I know of, but all that is a snake with the Melanin bred out, not really a pink snake.

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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Dekay! I can't even BELIVE you suggested that!!!

    Please state your reasons.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garter_Gertie View Post
    Dekay! I can't even BELIVE you suggested that!!!

    Please state your reasons.
    I don't see anything wrong with what he stated; The Florida blue garter he's talking about is Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis. The only flame garters I know of are also Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis.
    Also, with the Albino and melenistics (both sirtalis sirtalis in sake of this discussion) you'd get (I believe) melenistic babies that are heterozygous for amelenism. Or something like that.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by dekaybrown View Post
    That would be like crossing an albino with a Melanistic in hopes of Grey offspring. or checkered flag babies....
    lol
    Perhaps that's where checkered garters came from? :O
    IT'S A CONSPIRACY.
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