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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    No, but maybe the same picture? I think aberrent colouration is not that rare in sirtalis.
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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    Should be easy to check if it's the same picture. The snake's curled up on some dry leaves on sand or sandy soil, with the tail twisted so that the underside shows. Does it sound about right?

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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    The leaves and the sand are there, but no venter showing. The pic is credited to R.D. Bartlett though. Two pics from the same series?
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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    Subcaudals show, but no venter. Could very well be from the same series.

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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    that's an aberrant eastern garter, t sirtalis sirtalis.....someone on here caught it a few months ago and posted pics, they released it...... aberrant easterns aren't uncommon.

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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    This was actually a new picture I thought, is it really just an old one?

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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    Do you mean this one? I found this blue one last year (have been looking for it all this year). It has similar markings to the one in the photo. It is either an eastern or a maritime.

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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    Maritimes and Easterns look very similar, usually it's the spotting pattern that gives them away, but it's not 100% accurate. With the locality data though (the eastern most range of T.s.sirtalis), I'd have to agree with the others and say an aberrant colour of Eastern garter. Maritimes are no where even close to this range. I'd probally have to guess it's possibley an amelanistic individual. Very interesting specimen.

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    Re: ID/Colors morph=?

    Looks like an albino-ish normal eastern.
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