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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Wow, actually yes, it looks very similar to that. I've put it to "bed" so to speak, so I cant take it out to look and compare to pictures right now, but from what I see, yeah it looks similar to that. Uh oh, I might be in over my head here lol. I know something about garters, but never even heard of this species. Are they similar?

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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Yup searched for brown snakes and found this one on a new york state website,



    That is pretty much exactly how it looks.

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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Yep, Wayne (dekaybrown) and I can tell you about them.
    Care is pretty much the same as garters; but these guys like slugs a lot more. Worms are good too. Wayne says he never has trouble with getting them to eat; I've had a bit in the past but nowadays I've found that all you need is a steady hand and some worm guts.
    Just treat him/her like a garter, plenty of good drinking water and hides, and offer him/her chopped nightcrawler/worm bits or slugs. You can add some calcium or vitamins to the worms if you want; it may help a little.
    These snakes are a leetle more personable than garters; they'll warm up to YOU faster, I mean.
    **EDIT- I don't keep my dekay's with any supplemental heating and they do fine.
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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    EPIC.
    FAIL.
    lol
    thanks, THANKS A LOT!!!!!!
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    lol congrats i love browns they are the most good tempered pets you will ever have
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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Yeah like I was saying this guys (?) temparament/personality is awesome.

    Okay, is it possible to feed it whole worms? Can I buy slugs in a pet store?

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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Also what temps do I need? I am having a hard time to find a good care sheet...

    Also I know red worms are toxic for Garters, is it the same for these guys? Cause that would be an easy food source to get if it can eat it.

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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post
    Also what temps do I need? I am having a hard time to find a good care sheet...

    Also I know red worms are toxic for Garters, is it the same for these guys? Cause that would be an easy food source to get if it can eat it.
    Room temp is fine.
    As for whole worms, whole panfish worms are fine, but generally nightcrawlers simply need to be cut in two.
    Most if not all pet stores won't have slugs, but you can find them around your house in damp areas. (Outside. lol Especially now in the cool, wet fall.)
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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Thanks for the help guys. The more pics I look of Dekays/Brown snakes, the more I think that this is what I actually have. Thanks for the identification help. Can the brown snake eat red wiggler worms? Those are readily available over here so I can get them no problem. Ive googled around and it seems they can, but I wanna know for sure from someone who is experienced with them.

    I dont really want to go looking for slugs or have to cut earthworms to be honest if I can feed it something thats readily available...but if I must...lol.

    So, the care is mostly the same as for garters right?

    The evidence towards this being a brown snake just builds up...I read that they really like compost heaps...and I believe thats where it was found...hiding in rotting leaves. Now one care sheet mentioned that they dont do well in captivity, I hope thats not the case since some people here seem experienced with them.

    I hope it starts eating so I can get it a nice cage with everything. Maybe it needs more hiding spots?

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    Re: Need very quick assistance...

    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post
    Thanks for the help guys. The more pics I look of Dekays/Brown snakes, the more I think that this is what I actually have. Thanks for the identification help. Can the brown snake eat red wiggler worms? Those are readily available over here so I can get them no problem. Ive googled around and it seems they can, but I wanna know for sure from someone who is experienced with them.

    I dont really want to go looking for slugs or have to cut earthworms to be honest if I can feed it something thats readily available...but if I must...lol.

    So, the care is mostly the same as for garters right?

    The evidence towards this being a brown snake just builds up...I read that they really like compost heaps...and I believe thats where it was found...hiding in rotting leaves. Now one care sheet mentioned that they dont do well in captivity, I hope thats not the case since some people here seem experienced with them.

    I hope it starts eating so I can get it a nice cage with everything. Maybe it needs more hiding spots?
    Wayne says he's fed his dekays red wigglers for x amount of years with no problems, but they might actually be panfish worms. You may have to cut up night crawlers if you can't find smaller worms. :P
    Care is virtually the same as garters, except these are okay without a heat source.

    They do VERY well in captivity once they settle in. My female's a little piggy and she's wild caught.
    **EDIT- You could look into another species of worm. European nightcrawlers, panfish worms, and the worms from your yard will all fit the bill nicely; they're small enough to not be chopped but large enough to provide a good meal.
    0.1 Storeria dekayi
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