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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    yes they would be just as fertile as a non mix I even heard of two frog sub species that benefited from hybridizing
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Sub species would most definitely produce offspring, more or less capable of reproducing; I successfully ((accidentally mind you too!)) crossed Thamnophis marcianus marcianus with Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis and all of the babies were born healthy with no deformities aside from one. As far as if they're fertile, this would be risky to test.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    I agree. I would NEVER cross different sub species... And I don't think you would get purple. But as Wayne says. You could cross a flame sirtalis sirtalis wih a florida blue sirtalis sirtalis if you really wanted to! Same sub species. Just different colors.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Lexa, don't do it. Please? Please stay within your sub species. Get really good looking mates to go with what you and your friend have.

    PLEASE DO NOT HYBRIDIZE (did I spell that rite??)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    *Runs and hides*

    Don't worry, we won't breed them - I was just asking about it, that's all. I'd thought they were the same species but different colours, and it would be OK, but I stand corrected . Now that I know they're actually different subspecies, I won't consider breeding them. I was just curious!

    Is it safe to come out now?

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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Yes, it's safe! I'd not have gotten you. Just have been very sad should you do it.

    Come out! Come out! What you need to do is plan on mates for your snakies. WooT! That should be fun!

    Come on back out and play!
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garter_Gertie View Post
    (CRASH!) (Body hits floor falling outta chair)

    What? What? I'm fussy headed... Where am I?

    I dreamed Stefan agreed with me...

    What day is it? Where am I?
    Why do people keep saying things like that?

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    Wow! I agree with Stefan, how bout that?
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    I agreed with Stefan once..... but then he changed his mind!

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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    maybe it the fact that you dont usually agree with anyone
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexa View Post
    *Runs and hides*

    Don't worry, we won't breed them - I was just asking about it, that's all. I'd thought they were the same species but different colours, and it would be OK, but I stand corrected . Now that I know they're actually different subspecies, I won't consider breeding them. I was just curious!

    Is it safe to come out now?
    Well technically if you think about it... I don't think there's been any bloodwork on Thamnophis genetics extensively, so in the next 20 years we could find out that T. sirtalis paritalis and T. s. sirtalis are both the same thing. :P
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by crzy_kevo View Post
    maybe it the fact that you dont usually agree with anyone
    Not true, I usually just don't open my mouth when I do agree with someone. When the relevant things have already been said, what can I possibly contribute with, except moral support to those that I agree with? Although sometimes that's necessary, too.

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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    scott bred a regular eastern of some morph to a florida blue eastern this year... don't remember what the male was though...

    There's nothing wrong with what wayne suggested gertie, they are the same exact snakes, they just look different. It's like how you can have eastern garters from new york, and eastern garters from virginia. They may look different, but they are the same snake.
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    Re: Breeding related snakes?

    making a hybrid would be like make a new species if you mad another pair of the same kind of snakes and had 2 snakes with the same genetics so technicly oyu would be making a new species why would purists frown on it?
    a garter snake is way more superior then the normal human being (fact)

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