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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    do you ask your butcher how he killed the cow or do you just buy it, take it home...and eat it...im really wondering

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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    I for one refuse to buy meat or processed foods at the grocery store. I raise my own beef, chicken, and pork. Friends and i share my farm raised meats for their wildgame meat, and they are responsible hunters. I have been hunting on many occasions with them. I even raise pheasants and partridge here on the farm. I go fishing on a regular basis, and grow a moderate garden outdoors in the summer, and container garden in my sunporch in the winter. I get milk from my cow, make my own butter, and cheese, and my chickens give me eggs. I feed them grain and hay grown on other local farms so i know exactly what i am eating, what it ate before slaughter and when i bring an animal in to be slaughtered at out local plant, i stay and watch to make sure it didnt suffer. They are excellent at our local plant, very good with the animals they are paid to kill and process. I try and buy as much as i can from local farmers/producers where i can visit the farm and see how they grow their crops, treat their animals etc. On occasion i do run out of home grown stuff and have to buy things like lettuce from the grocery store, but if at all possible i deal local.. Even my baking flour is grown and milled locally. oh and canola oil omg dont even get me started on that horrid stuff.. (not an animal but its extremely i mean EXTREMELY bad for us) I know not everyone can grow all their own food, but they sure can buy from farmers in their area, might be a little less convenient then the supermarket but at least you know what you are eating, and its not pumped full of disease, drugs, hormones, and adrenaline from a horrible death. Our animals are treated like family while they are with us, they are our pets. We feed and love them, until its time for them to feed us, but they are respected even as we put their flesh in the freezer. We think of them, and remember them. It is indeed horrible what mammals, reptiles, marsupials, and birds suffer at the hands on mankind. just my two cents worth....

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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by PINJOHN View Post
    cant find a single word to disagree with Shannon we are in complete accord on this,
    haven't come across any recent reports since you took on your gravid disposition [so to speak]
    my gravid disposition won't last much longer now... Heck soon I will be going into pre-lay shed and in two months I will be ready to lay my clutch!
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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    This is a bit random, but does anyone know if frog legs that you see at the supermarket are from wild-caught frogs? The only reason I ask is because tadpoles are really hard to keep alive and get to that size if they don't have decent conditions, which seems like it would cost a lot. Especially with frog/reptile products (like turtle which is illegal here, but not lots of other places) there seems to be a lot of wild-harvesting. I mean.. I routinely hold living fish upside down by their tails out of water for minutes at a time to feed my snake, and I also eat meat, so I'm really in no position to criticize anyone else who buys factory produced meat The one thing I do try to avoid is products harvested from the wild. A little illogical since the things I do buy probably hurt wild populations wayyyy more than what I don't buy helps them, but I'm not really in a position to do otherwise at the moment...

    Haha... I literally lol'd at that last comment.
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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Diesel, if you make good, flavourful mozzarella... I'd buy some from you!
    Stores only carry the gross, rubbery and flavourless kind... Yuck!
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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by bushsnake View Post
    do you ask your butcher how he killed the cow or do you just buy it, take it home...and eat it...im really wondering
    lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Maybe it was your tone of voice when you typed it
    Don't type to me in that tone of voice! hahaha!

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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    Diesel, if you make good, flavourful mozzarella... I'd buy some from you!
    Stores only carry the gross, rubbery and flavourless kind... Yuck!
    sorry, i make gouda cheese curds mainly, we use them to make poutine, if you dont know what that is lol its french fries smothered in cheese curds and brown gravy.. its soooooo good. I never tried to make mozzarella.

    i think we all got a lil off topic. but its nice to see so many people conscientious about critter welfare. I knew this was a good place..

    on another note i feel sooo bad when i cut up those earthworms.. cant wait until the babies can eat them whole, which lexi has started doing but poor indy his little head is just too small yet but he sure tries.

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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by d_virginiana View Post
    This is a bit random, but does anyone know if frog legs that you see at the supermarket are from wild-caught frogs?
    Most are farmed in outdoor pens in South America. And I don't know what methods you're using but everytime I've kept bullfrog tadpoles, even starting them from eggs, they have always thrived.

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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Most are farmed in outdoor pens in South America. And I don't know what methods you're using but everytime I've kept bullfrog tadpoles, even starting them from eggs, they have always thrived.
    The "farm" consists of fencing in a wetland.. They are "harvested"

    The worldwide trade in frog legs is massive, and is undoubtedly a significant contributor to the decline and extinction of amphibian populations worldwide. For example, Europeans alone consumed roughly 120 million frogs per year in the 1990's. The Californian gold-miners nearly ate the California red-legged frog (Rana draytonii) to extinction in the 19th century, and the species has never fully recovered.The frog legs trade is problematic whether the frogs are wild-caught or farm-raised. Specifically, the harvest of wild frogs leads to depletion of wild populations, and trade in farm-raised frogs leads to the spread of harmful infectious diseases and invasive species.

    Kind of like the savannah monitor "farms" they scoop up gravid wild animals and throw them all into a fenced in pen, after they lay the eggs, the skins are used for leather and the eggs are sold into the pet trade.

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    Re: Store-bought Frozen Frog Legs?

    Back to frog legs :-P I'm also always looking for new food sources for my garter, and currently use guppies, earthworms, supplemented fish fillets and PK mice. Nutritionally, frog legs are a great idea because it's pretty close to the garter's natural diet. My biggest moral concerns with frog legs would be whether the species are in some kind of peril (probably not, but worth checking), and whether they're wild-caught or farmed. That aside, I'd be concerned about contaminants and parasites. A continuous two-week freeze will kill most parasites. I freeze all my feeder fish and fillets for two weeks, even if they're from a local source. It's hard to know about contaminants, especially from countries that don't have strict food standards, so that's up to you to decide.

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