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    Color Results

    Hi,

    Soon I am going to be getting 3 garter snakes. Hopefully a Male Santa Cruz(One Stripe Morph), Female Eastern Flame, and a Female Quad Het Plains Garter(Nebraska Albino, Nebraska Snow, Iowa Albino, Iowa Snow). I was wondering what colors I might get.

    Thanx

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    Re: Color Results

    About the colors I cannot tell you something.
    What you get is hybrids (when they want to breed).
    Hybrids are specimen that are born when different species have copulated.
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    Re: Color Results

    Hi, from Oregon, Rinako

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    Re: Color Results

    Welcome aboard, rinako.

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    Re: Color Results

    What Fons said it correct, you will get hybrids or maybe nothing. I hope you'll buy some new mate's for them of the same subspecies.

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    Re: Color Results

    These are not different colors, they are different species.

    T atratus atratus male
    T sirtalis (flame) female
    T radix (quad het) female

    If these were all subspecies of sirtalis, for example, they might breed. However, since they are seperate species, they may not be able to breed, they may produce infertile hybrid offspring (like horse x donkey = mule) or they may produce genetically defective offspring.

    And yes, they might produce normal hybrids, which are unlikely to express any of the morphs that your snakes are het for...

    If they do produce normal hybrids, then you may have a problem selling the offspring, because the production of hybrids is viewed as unethical in some sectors of the reptile hobby.

    My suggestion is that after you receive the three snakes, decide which one you like the best, and buy a corresponding mate for that species... leaving the other two as pets.

    OR, you could ask Scott to sell you another set of three, with the atratus being female and the sirtalis and radix being male. Then you would be able to breed all three species and might get some of your hets to come out in the offspring, instead of risking getting hybrids.
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    Re: Color Results

    Hi Alandra, welcome to the forum.
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    Hi there
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    Re: Color Results

    I've changed my mind on what snakes Im getting. Ive decided to get a male Florida Blue Eastern and a female Normal Eastern.

    Thanx for the help guys

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    Re: Color Results

    Quote Originally Posted by rinako View Post
    I've changed my mind on what snakes Im getting. Ive decided to get a male Florida Blue Eastern and a female Normal Eastern.

    Thanx for the help guys
    Good luck with your new choices, and I hope they do well for you!
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