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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    I don't know... Not being a breeder, I don't know how much what I have to say matters, but I don't know if the "best" breeder is necessarily the one with the fattest wallet.

    I know a good amount shows this guy that the breeder is serious, but setting up an auction, and taking a cut, seems to be monitarily motivated than anything else.

    I know that's not how you are intendint the event to go down, that's just my perspective as a non-breeder watching this unfold.

    I don't think I like the idea of this forum used to propagate a bidding war on a living thing- unusual morph or not.

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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    Quote Originally Posted by prattypus View Post
    I don't think I like the idea of this forum used to propagate a bidding war on a living thing- unusual morph or not.
    Exactly.....

    May not be my place to say this, but it will not fly here, that is not what this site is about.

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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    OK, fair enough. Just facing reality here. Guy is going to sell. If you really believe this is motivated by money only, then fine. I'll do what it takes to ensure there are no doubts and take nothing, and prove I took nothing if that is the attitude. The money I was talking about taking was a token. I can do just fine without it. It's not about money at all. That's not why I'm doing this. I'd like to see any one of you have it. I don't want to see the gene lost. That is a very high concern of mine.

    At the same time, I want to do right by the person who found it and get it sold for the highest price any one of you, or other garter breeders is willing to offer. I wanted to do it here because of who is here. Perhaps this is not the place but I want the same group of people to have a shot. I only asked the guy for a percentage so he would know my intent to get the highest price is genuine. Really, you guys, I don't really need the money that bad, and I'd do this even if it was for NO money.

    So then, I value the input. How do you think I should proceed?

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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    OK, fair enough. Just facing reality here. Guy is going to sell. If you really believe this is motivated by money only, then fine. I'll do what it takes to ensure there are no doubts and take nothing, and prove I took nothing if that is the attitude. The money I was talking about taking was a token. I can do just fine without it. It's not about money at all. That's not why I'm doing this. I'd like to see any one of you have it. I don't want to see the gene lost. That is a very high concern of mine.

    At the same time, I want to do right by the person who found it and get it sold for the highest price any one of you, or other garter breeders is willing to offer. I wanted to do it here because of who is here. Perhaps this is not the place but I want the same group of people to have a shot. I only asked the guy for a percentage so he would know my intent to get the highest price is genuine. Really, you guys, I don't really need the money that bad, and I'd do this even if it was for NO money.

    So then, I value the input. How do you think I should proceed?
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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    Already been mentioned earlier in this thread. He's also already been notified. I have had regular dialogue with him the past few days about other matters. I am awaiting his response on the matter of this albino.

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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    I can't believe someone offered him 2k for that snake. In fact I don't. I mean, it's cool and all, but it's just another albino and it's not even very colorful! The fact that he says they left no contact makes me suspicious that he made that up to try to hype up how much the snake is worth. It's not worth $2k.... Many WC new albino garters have sold for a lot less than that. If there is any person who will shell out that kind of money, it's probably going to be Bill Minnick, who now owns the piebald eastern.
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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    I hear you. Perhaps you're right. But I did want to offer it up to breeders that most of us know of, and just see how high it goes, if it goes high at all. No biggie.

    The fact remains that once it is confirmed to be an albino Northwestern, it will be the only one. As far as value goes, that's up to the people who care to make offers. I just know that I expect that I won't be able to outbid anyone else who might like to have it.

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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I hear you. Perhaps you're right. But I did want to offer it up to breeders that most of us know of, and just see how high it goes, if it goes high at all. No biggie.

    The fact remains that once it is confirmed to be an albino Northwestern, it will be the only one. As far as value goes, that's up to the people who care to make offers. I just know that I expect that I won't be able to outbid anyone else who might like to have it.
    If there is one there could be more, and if not there will be produced in time, so I think I would just wait.
    First things first is it definately a northwestern and not an albino checkered or some other more common albino that someone let go out there, I haven't seen good pics.
    It's getting to be a circus show when someone finds something, not sure I even want to partake.

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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    It's getting to be a circus show when someone finds something, not sure I even want to partake.
    Ditto!
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    Re: Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

    same here.....

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