Last Chance to stop the Python and Boa Ban!

[MasSalvaje]

Now how exactly does the proposed change make it so reptile shows won't be able to continue? Doesn't sound right to me.

The big money getters at shows are not the garter snakes and other colubrids, it is the boids. Show organizers may not be able to fill enough tables if breeders can't come from out of state to sell the animals that make them the most money. If not enough tables are filled, the organizers don't make as much money, attendance drops further limiting profits, and shows all across the country shut down.

It makes perfect sense to me.

-Thomas

[Stefan-A]

Just supposing that the ban becomes a reality, what would you do to adapt to the new situation?

The hobby would definitely change, but people adapt. Reduced interest in the banned species will favour those who breed species that remain unaffected. People settle for the second best thing, if they can't have what they want, they won't abandon the hobby completely. The market will adapt.

I'm not suggesting that I'd support the ban, I'm just saying that if I know people, they will find a way to avoid the problem.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Will the reptile hobby adapt? Eventually, yes. In the meantime, large numbers of people will actually go bankrupt and lose their houses. There is no avoiding the problem for these people--those who specialize in large constrictors will have the rug pulled out from under them, and find themselves with animals rendered nearly worthless overnight. Why? Because some greedy politicians down in Florida wanted a handout.

[Snakeknot]

Is this a breed specific ban? My worry is if they ban boas in general, what about my little sand boas? And what's gonna stop them from making a general blanket ban on all pet snakes in general? What about people with emerald tree boas? There are a lot of boa breeds out there. I don't own the big boas but I have a fit about this law. It will be passed by snake ignorant people ( never a good thing! ) and how rabid ( or not ) will be the enforcement? We need more education about snakes to the general public. And we also need to get stories from responsible snake owners to get out to the general public, not just the exciting, negative stories where someone gets hurt by one of their snakes!


Devon

[Stefan-A]

Is this a breed specific ban? My worry is if they ban boas in general, what about my little sand boas?

9 species total, Boa constrictor is the only boa on the list.

[jere000]

9 species total, Boa constrictor is the only boa on the list.

Boa constrictor has a few sub species which are also getting banned lets see there is,Bci,Bco,Bcc, and Bca theres others i just don't feel like naming them.

[Stefan-A]

Boa constrictor has a few sub species which are also getting banned lets see there is,Bci,Bco,Bcc, and Bca theres others i just don't feel like naming them.

If the species gets banned, so does its subspecies.

[ConcinusMan]

For some reason, I doubt it's the end of reptile shows just because 9 species get banned. Those tables for the most part, are the one's I skip. Personally I'd be glad to see them go if it meant seeing less of those unwanted, neglected, species ending up taking up ALL the space at other place. You know the place. The place where many of the "big money" babies end up a few years after they are sold to fools. And that's only probably about 1/4 of them. Guess where the other 2/3 end up? (I virtually hear the sound of a toilet flushing)

[jere000]

For some reason, I doubt it's the end of reptile shows just because 9 species get banned. Those tables for the most part, are the one's I skip. Personally I'd be glad to see them go if it meant seeing less of those unwanted, neglected, species ending up taking up ALL the space at other place. You know the place. The place where many of the "big money" babies end up a few years after they are sold to fools. And that's only probably about 1/4 of them. Guess where the other 2/3 end up? (I virtually hear the sound of a toilet flushing)

What's the other place please inform me?

[ConcinusMan]

about 10 non-profit reptile rescues in Portland. All of them up to their eyeballs in Boa constrictors, ball pythons, and corn snakes. And yet people are still buying "shiny new" babies from the pet stores. These aren't cut flowers people!

Whatever ban they impose, let's just hope it is well-written. Oregon has better laws than WA. Better for snake enthusiasts I mean, but still, you can have a 9 foot egyptian cobra. Perfectly legal. But you can't have a tame rattlesnake. Go figure. Now which one do you think poses the greater threat to the public? But anyway, their laws have a loophole that applies to anery concinnus or native garter snakes in general. Native wildlife, yes. But if it is out the norm such as an anery, or an albino, etc. it's legal.