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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven@HumboldtHerps View Post
    I have done both. They are quite easy once you have a good set-up. I feed the frogs flies, fruit flies (from the compost!), crickets, waxworms, and small earthworms. The tadpoles need a constant supply of algae, but will graze on algae wafers. I keep my tank outside in part sun/part shade. Tadpoles will often bask in the shallows where the water is warmer. I always however have to monitor the temperature during the summer (I simply offer more shade if it's too warm). There is a 10 gal. tank filled with rocks and then soil substrate that I put inside the large tank; I also have floating cork and local aquatic plants. The tank is 3/5 water, 2/5 land.
    Do you happen to have a photo of that set-up you could post?
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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

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    I've never seen a blue one, are you sure that's not a hoax??! That's amazing. of course, when I first moved to San Diego some years ago, I was shocked. I found those frogs in seasonal streams at canyon bottoms and found them in weird colors. Bright orange, (with or without green spots) metallic gold, metallic bronze. Those were so unusual, but blue? Wow! I want a pair. Get me some blue ones!
    The blue ones are extremely rare, and I believe the trait is a simple recessive. This specimen was discovered within the city limits of Eureka and was donated to the Humboldt State University Natural History Museum. It's real! Good luck on finding one! Maybe one in a million? 1 in 500, 000? I don't know... rare.......

    Oh, and bronzes or metallic colors are common... Not so often for the whole animal, but usually either dorsally or laterally (varies with the 2-color changers) and especially on the legs and forearms.

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    Not common at my locale. Not at all. That's why I found it surprising when I saw them in San Diego. Now I know how highly variable they can be, depending on their environment and other factors. For whatever reason, that locale in San Diego favored metallics and it was all or most of their bodies! Darn about the blue.

    @ guido: I do have video somewhere, of the frogs eating. As soon as I find it, I'll post on youtube and share the link. I can't find a picture but the housing was plastic and converted (drilled holes in top, and sealed the bottom) from packaging that this toy came in: Doozy Fun Marionette : 40050852A523499A474 - Buy.com

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    I'll post a pic of my set-up soon.

    A note regarding Pseudacris regilla: The species is currently under revision. It may very well turn out that the current populations are composed of 3 "species."

    Californiaherps has them listed as*:

    Northern Pacific Chorus Frog (Pseudacris regilla) NW CA northwards
    Sierran Chorus Frog (P. sierra) SC CA northwards/eastwards
    Baja California Chorus Frog (P. hypochondriaca) SC CA southwards

    Maybe the Baja frogs have a tendency for more over-all metallic colors; there's a certain reflectivity about these colors; makes sense if you live in a hotter and dryer climate!

    *New common names listed as "treefrogs"..... Perhaps I'll send Gary Nafis an e-mail...

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    This is the habitat I originally created for my chorus frogs and tadpoles. It currently houses 3 Northern Red-legs and one adult Northwestern Salamander.
    I am in the process of setting up a new tank for the chorus frogs.

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    Neato setup^^^It was definitely dry where I found them.(metallics) The stream was only temporary, lasting just long enough in the spring to barely raise a few tadpoles before things dried up again. The only other amphibians in these canyons were western toads that spend most of the year estivating in burrows, and some CA slender salamanders which don't require standing water to reproduce. Those So. CA frogs tended to be very small too, when compared to NW frogs. Even after things dried up, if you wanted to go digging into the sides of the stream bed, you could find them sharing burrows with toads. NW tadpoles tend to have more time to grow, and so transform into frogs at a larger size. They can be found far from water though, and tend to have a more aborrial existance (near water they can be heard croaking high up in trees) than the So. CA ones.

    You know something though? There was once an abondoned gravel pit here in Vanc. where all the frogs were colored to match the gravely-grey background of their environment. Fascinating.

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    Here are few Pseudachris pics from last March and May. Yes, that ghost foot you see is a chorus frog molt! The fifth picture is a shot I took of my 3 Red-legs last year.

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    Kewl! I used to know a spot right here in Vanc. where you could practically walk across the (few inches of) water on their backs.(red-legged frogs) I mean, they were thick! Not coincidentally, Thamnophis sirtalis concinnus were also thick in that area. I even caught a yellow bellied racer in the same area. He had a proplapsed reproductive organ, making it easy to catch him. I amputated it and kept him through 2 sheds and released him.

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    You know something though? There was once an abondoned gravel pit here in Vanc. where all the frogs were colored to match the gravely-grey background of their environment. Fascinating.
    Color variability seems to be like one of Pseudachris' best survival strategies.

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    Re: A Garter Staple - the Amazing Pacific Chorus Frog

    ah yes, I've read that. These "gravel" morphs I speak of could change color from very light gray with dark spots, to all dark, almost black. Temperature had a big influence.

    In wetter, greener environments I've collected individuals that could turn from brown to dark olive-green.

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