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    Subadult snake Kantar's Avatar
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    Manitobas Garters

    It has been bugging me for so long, I see 4 different patterned garters. But some in a certain area I find more than the others

    From left to right we'll call them A, B and C


    A and C - 80 out of 100 times I'll see this snake while B the rest of those times

    D - use serpent for example, I only find maybe once a year


    The red sided is obvious, but what about the other 3?

    I don't want to be confused any longer

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    D looks like a radix!

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    I'm not really good at identifying, but I've seen quite a few easterns with similar patterns to C.
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    3.0 T. sirtalis sirtalis, 1.1 T. cyrtopsis ocellatus, 1.0 L. caerulea, 0.1 C. cranwelli, 0.1 T. carolina, 0.1 P. regius, 0.1 G. rosea, 0.0.1 B. smithi, 0.1 H. carolinensis

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    D is an awesome radix.
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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    To me they all look like,

    A. Eastern
    B. Red sided
    C. Eastern
    D. Radix

    Nothing crazy. But what do I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
    D looks like a radix!
    I made it sound like it only LOOKED like a radix. Not what I meant.

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    D is an awesome radix.

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    A,B & C are all sirts, d is a radix. That's the Manitoba hypervariability in full cry.

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    A b and c arelikely all parietalis. They don't need to have red on them to be considered parietalis!
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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    That is all in this area though, from Stephenfield Lake to St. Lupicin

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Kantar View Post
    That is all in this area though, from Stephenfield Lake to St. Lupin
    what's your point?

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    Re: Manitobas Garters

    Yes D without question is thamnophis radix. But seeing a high degree of variation in the same locality is very common... the easterns in my backyard are all a little different! A B and C are probably all parietalis but they could be s. sirtalis or even intergrades of the two! I like A, with the white flecks!
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