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    Question on genetics

    So I'm asking this coming from the world of exotic bird breeding...

    For those of you breeding, is there an ethical code for keeping blood lines pure? Like in the bird world an ethical breeder would not cross a Fischer's Love Bird with a Peach Faced. It would never happen in the wild, and the breeder would create birds with genetic impurity. The end result in most cases with birds is sterility in the cross bred young.

    So, if you own an Eastern and a Puget Sound, assuming they were of opposite sex, would you house them seperately so as not to mess up natures balance?

    Just curious.

    Thanks

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    Re: Question on genetics

    yes i would, some people believe hybrids are wrong and some people believe they are fine as long as they are sold as hybrids. plus a blue snake x a brown snake would probaly just end up looking like a brown snake with some blue tint or something (maybe if it was a red snake x blue snake it would be more acceptable in my opinion), not nearly as pretty as a puget. so yes unless you purposly want two hybridize to species i would keep them seperated (ones of opposite sexes)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy View Post
    So I'm asking this coming from the world of exotic bird breeding...

    For those of you breeding, is there an ethical code for keeping blood lines pure? Like in the bird world an ethical breeder would not cross a Fischer's Love Bird with a Peach Faced. It would never happen in the wild, and the breeder would create birds with genetic impurity. The end result in most cases with birds is sterility in the cross bred young.

    So, if you own an Eastern and a Puget Sound, assuming they were of opposite sex, would you house them seperately so as not to mess up natures balance?

    Just curious.

    Thanks

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    Re: Question on genetics

    I think most people don't like the idea of breeding hybrids/intergrade.

    The problem is that you can sell them as hybrid and be open about that But if the one who bought it sells it, he might just say it's a normal snake of a certain species. If you then breed further... Actually you get unpure blood that you never get pure again...
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    Re: Question on genetics

    Yup, it's the same feeling in the bird world and makes perfect sense. Cool, thanks for the input.

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    Re: Question on genetics

    from what i understand, if the option of breeding with their own species is there they wont hybridise with another species.

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    Re: Question on genetics

    I don't do a lot of breeding with my Garters, but I will not cross breed one species or subspecies to anything else. I will leave the genetic strictly to nature.
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    Re: Question on genetics

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid View Post
    I don't do a lot of breeding with my Garters, but I will not cross breed one species or subspecies to anything else. I will leave the genetic strictly to nature.
    i agree, leave nature to nature

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    Re: Question on genetics

    Sids words are very wise... we can't better nature.
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    Re: Question on genetics

    Good enough. My question really stems from any future aquisition of Garters, particularly the Puget Sound. Very pretty!

    So, if I were to get one, I wondered if they could be housed together with my Eastern or individually.

    Thanks for the info!

    Lump

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    Re: Question on genetics

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy View Post
    Good enough. My question really stems from any future aquisition of Garters, particularly the Puget Sound. Very pretty!

    So, if I were to get one, I wondered if they could be housed together with my Eastern or individually.

    Thanks for the info!

    Lump
    Females generally don't cause problems; it's the males. You could always get a species of the same sex... Or get 1.1 of one species and 1.1 of another.
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