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    Subcutanous Lumps

    It's off to the Vet. this morning to get this girl a checkup. This is one of the rescued females that was brought to me during the Summer.
    These subcutanous lumps have always been there and nows the time to get them checked. He'll probably lance them open.
    They don't feel fluid filled and may contain worms. I've never seen subcutanous worms this near the head. They have always appeared more in the digestive tract.
    She's a fine young adult and I hope everything turns out good for her.
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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    Good luck.

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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    Fingers crossed for her.
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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    Parasite check and cancer check came up negative. Turned out to be enlarged lymph nodes. He removed both. I'll be treating the incisions with silver sulfadiazine cream and she'll be rechecked in a week. This photo is after the first incision. I will post another photo after she's had a day of rest.
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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    my radix has similar lumps, but in the mid-body area. i keep her dry and stay on top of cage cleaning chores. temperature is mid 70s during the day . mid -sixties at night. i thought bumps like that were associated w/ moisture issues. i keep sirtalis as well, and have never had a problem them. her appetite is good and she is active and alert. i'm baffled
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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    *Update*

    She's been very restless since I brought her home. The large lump got a couple stitches, the small one was left open.
    I've been sleeping on the couch after my shoulder surgery. Now, I have a recovery buddy sleeping next to the couch. I plan on giving her a week out of her enclosure. Then, I'll see about moving her back in with her friends.

    My Vet. did everything for $45. Without his help(price adjustments) I would not normally be able to afford some of these procedures. I've double my budget for Vet. services this year. This also includes some medical equipment purchases to aid in keeping my future cost down.
    I feel good that these all too forgotten snakes are receiving some much needed help. It also puts me in contact with other specialist that will be able to provide my snakes more services.
    One project I'm hoping to start this year is blood screening to try and develop some kind of baseline numbers for a healthy garter snake. Something like a CBC(complete blood count) done on dogs,cats, even people. I've never been able to find any studies done in this area with regards to garter snakes. Considering that garter snakes are one of the most studied snakes, I think these numbers would be helpful and provide an insight to their health. and what keeps them healthy.
    One of the big drawbacks I face with this project is the amount of blood needed for the screening. My Vet. is concerned they may not be able to safely supply the volume needed. I won't put them in harm's way.
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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    I didn't even know snakes had lymph nodes!

    Does that mean the cutting wasn't really necessary? I mean, it was necessary to find the cause of the lumps but do swollen nodes require lancing?

    Still have to wonder what caused the swollen nodes too.

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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    swollen lymph nodes can happen due to an infection somewhere in the body
    they're part of the immune system
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    Re: Subcutanous Lumps

    Yes I know. I have suffered from that condition myself.(sore, swollen lymph nodes) I'm just saying, nobody cut me open to find the source of the swelling. The soreness was nearly unbearable but the swelling/pain eventually subsides. If it doesn't, and the node continues to be a problem, it can be removed (?) So I'm thinking, since they had to cut, did they remove the swollen nodes from the snake?

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    I am sure with all of this work done in addition to all the attention she will get from you, she will recover extremely fast and so smoothly.

    What I am thinking about here is how different the snake medical care attention between here and Iowa. I am sure you still remember the snake with pimples that I showed some pictures about in the forum during October. I neither found vet who accepts snakes at all (they only work with dogs and cats!!!) nor did the place where I bought it from take any responsibility. Since the shop owner where I bought it from became kind of friend (or at least I was the best client who buys huge amount of fish every month), when I asked him about the problem and how to solve he directly offered me a new snake for free just in a polite way to make me stop talking or change the subject.
    I think due to the very low price of Natrix here and the very few numbers of expensive snake owners; neither vets nor shop owners are interested in having any medical center for snakes.

    Good luck with your snake recovery process, hope to see soon some pics of her with no open wounds, just small scars
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