"Anery" Concinnus Arrived!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Boy, these things are just too cool! They are about 100 times more awesome in person! thank you so much ConcinnusMan! I'm not really sure what is going on with them... they are so blue/green. Axanthic? Anery? Green phase? what do you call it? For now I'm gonna go with green phase, but if I had to choose between anery and axanthic, I'd choose axanthic.

Here's the female:








And the male:

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Here's my normal red female




And here they are together for comparison

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Here's a different looking female I received in a trade tuesday




And in that trade I also received this neat pickeringii... blue and red together!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

[prattypus]

Wow- those are some nice new additions- that one must've seen a ghost, because she's so pale.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Awesome Shannon, do you think youll get any pairings this year....I dont think the pickeringii is pickeringii, pickeringii has more reduced dorsal stripe....whatchathink?

[ConcinusMan]

Her blue w/red pickeringii is a perfectly normal puget for some locales. Nothing strange about it. As far as the other one with red goes, I don't think there's even a trace of concinnus in that one. If anything, it's a puget or mostly puget. Get's even more complicated due to the fact that wild concinnus breed with fitchii in very limited intergrade zones, some puget's are red-spotted, and they too breed with fitchii in the wild. Not to mention all the snakes I've seen advertised as "concinnus" when they in fact, are not. When you've seen as many examples of pure wild concinnus as I have, it's easy to spot when something is "off". Laterally striped concinnus do exist (a bit rare) in the wild but if a concinnus has lateral stripes AND something else doesn't fit, it's a hybrid or not concinnus. Could be that neither of those snakes is pure anything, or that they are both just pugets, or one is a puget the other is... There's no real way to tell but we can rule out pure concinnus.

Wow shannon, I need a decent camera. I just can't get the true color and your photos show the difference from the norm, dramatically, as it is. But you see what I mean, why I can't say they're anery? I mean, it's NOT black and white. Also, there's some kind of color there in the cheeks and in the spots. Not exactly yellow, not exactly red or orange.

I don't think I like "green phase" but I don't have any better ideas at the moment. Whatever we call it, circumstantial evidence suggests it's a dominant gene so we can easily tell them apart from normals in the area. If it is dominant we'll have to prove that out and we'll need to prove which ones are het and which ones aren't. That could be a challenge and will take time. We have a worthy project for the next 5 years I would say.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Oregon green spotted garters????

[bkhuff1s]

Nice

[ConcinusMan]

Dayglow? greenghost? stonewash? who knows. You could use any of those terms. I'm more interested in what is going on genetically and what is going on with the pigments. Only one pigment missing? two? which pigments are affected? is it a dominant gene? A million questions. Maybe they are anery and only red is missing, leaving the weird green color(yellow and blue?) a chance to come through. After all, her normal has that same glow, in the stripe, as many normals do around here too.

It's not exactly green. More like "aqua". Whatever it is...

I've simply resorted to calling them my "Weird" concinnus. I'm glad there's something new now that we can actually call a morph.(I don't think high black or high red qualifies as a morph) Concinnus seem to be lacking in that area. There's no real, unusual morphs being bred. Until now.