Looking for Breeders in.....

[arborealboids]

Hey everyone,
I'm looking for breeders of the following Natricins (Preferred US Breeders except for certain species that aren't usually bred here);
Thamnophis sirtalis concinnus
T. s. infernalis
T. s. tetrataenia (I believe only Euro Breeders)
T. s. pickeringii
T. s. similis
T. elegans terrestris
Natrix natrix
N. tessellata
Nerodia rhombifer

Thanks and Sincerely,
Mark

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

you cant keep san fransisco garters in the US sorry

[adamanteus]

It would also be illegal to trade Natrix natrix sub-species.

[RichardA]

Why can you not keep Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia in the US?

They are not on the red list anywhere....

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

they are a highly endangered federally protected snake here in the US. unless you are a zoo, you won't have them.

[enigma200316]

unless you like prison and have a lot of money............

[ssssnakeluvr]

hopefully my concinnus will be breeding....I don't have a male terrestris, do have a large female and am in need of a male.
tetrataenia's federally protected, very endangered, around 1500 or so left in the wild, according to an article on the old thamnophis.com whe Juergen owned id. can't even buy from overseas, will get hammered big time on federal laws. sucks!!!!!

[Stefan-A]

I think it's pure luck that tetras are legal in Europe. If I remember correctly, they aren't even CITES listed because they don't list subspecies.

[enigma200316]

what luck to have though...................

[RichardA]

2007 IUCN Red List – Search


Not listed........

all I can find is that they are protected in California....and on the endangered Fed list...so WC is out, however most of the Fed covered stuff is void in private CB collections until you try to sell and or ship them.

I am not trying to argue here.....just wondering how they can be illegal and not on the redlist. thats all.