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    Forgive my ignorance.

    In seeing the squished wandering from someone else here in WA got me thinking? My Willow was WC and she was gravid when we caught her (we didn't know that at the time). Her babies were HUGE! They have similar markings to the Wandering. From the map Steve posted I live in Wandering area along with NW and Pugets ( I feel very lucky for that!). From what I have read Wanderings and NW share a similarity in the areas they prefer. Could my Willow have mated with a Wandering and now I have mutt babies, or is this impossible due to the major size difference of the two? Sorry if this is a stupid and ignorant question.

    You may be able to see my confusion a little better than me trying to explain it.

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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    Well, Willow is a NW. Babies are always born like this, they're extremely polymorphic so they can look like another species. Willow is quite small, right? Under 2 ft or around that?
    Chantel
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    Yes Willow is about 21in. The babies were about 4.5in at birth. The ones that have eaten are about 7-7.25in. now at 6wks old.
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    I've never heard of a Wandering/Northwestern hybrid.
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    It is rather unlikely. Those babies look pretty northwesternish to me. As stated before, there is a large amount of polymorphism in northwesterns. No two babies look alike!
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    Spots and Speckles were twins when they were born... They looked exactly alike 100% It's hard to tell the difference still, but yeah...
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    Thanks all, again sorry for my lack of knowledge on this one.
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    It's okay, it's not like we all expect everyone to know everything about garters
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    Thanks.
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    Re: Forgive my ignorance.

    Dont try being whitty with me Kat :P You get my point though.
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