Cloudy eyes w/Mouth infection?

[d_virginiana]

Sithis' mouth infection appears about the same, but starting yesterday I noticed his eyes have clouded over. This kind of worried me since I've read about cloudy eyes being a sign of a mouth infection getting worse. His mouth may be a little worse than it was, but still no discharge, and the gums are still pink. He ate some worm last night (with all the dirt squeezed out of it to keep his mouth clean) and begged for more, so he's not feeling too bad.
I also moved my equipment around a little bit, and have him closer to the heater with a bright bulb, so his temps are in the mid-80's now.

I can't tell if the cloudy eyes are just him getting ready to shed, or a sign of the infection getting worse. I'll get a picture up a little later. They both clouded over completely and at the same time, so I'm thinking it may just be shed related. I do wonder though since it has only been about a month since his last shed; of course at his size, he sheds pretty often.

Does anyone have pictures of what cloudy eyes due to infection look like? I'd appreciate something to compare it to.

[guidofatherof5]

I'd be interested in reading that paper/article. Never heard of that connection and certainly don't understand it.
Sounds like a normal shed about to happen.

[d_virginiana]

lol It was actually mentioned here. It was on the thread I posted over a year ago about Harley's mouth infection. I think the reasoning was that if the infection was caused by the gland between the mouth and eye getting blocked up it could start affecting the eye.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/urge...aby-snake.html

[guidofatherof5]

There's a thread that got by me. I'll have to give it a read.

[ConcinusMan]

Sounds like a normal shed about to happen.

What he said ^^^

[guidofatherof5]

With regards to the shed in that thread I think it might have just been a coincidence. I've never seen a connection between lip infections and sheds but saying that I've never watched for a connection either. I suppose it's possiblebutwithout any concrete evidence I'll consider it a coincidence for now.
It's good that you are watching your snake so well. Keep up the good work.

[d_virginiana]

I was thinking eye-infections and lip infections could somehow be connected? I was reading over the old threads very late last night, so it's entirely possible (probable) that I got confused.

Probably just another shed, but I can't help being paranoid Since earlier, it's starting to look more like he's just going into shed than anything sinister. His pink eyes definitely look different from my others when he's about to shed.

[EasternGirl]

I would think that an eye and lip infection could be connected...the infection could certainly spread through the blood or tissue. But the person who posted about cloudy eyes happening when the snake had an infection...sounds like a coincindence and perhaps the person did not understand the connection between cloudy eyes and shedding.

[d_virginiana]

Just a quick update; it was definitely cloudiness before a shed His eyes are clear again today; it doesn't stay visible on him as long as with my non-albinos. Like, maybe 24 hours, where my others seem to be 'blue' for days. Infection doesn't really look any better; face is still very puffy. But no color change or anything, so that's good. He came out to beg for food today too.

I am going to put a small box with moist paper towels in his enclosure though. He seemed to be having some respiratory distress when he shed a month ago and the infection was barely noticeable. When he's ready to shed I want him to be able to get it off ASAP even if I'm not around.

[guidofatherof5]

Any chance we can see a photo. You say the face is swollen not just the lip?