Help Identifing Garters *Pics*

[zirliz]

Here are pics of my two Garters but I've no clue what species can anyone help me identify 'em?

This is Digits he/she seems to dislike been held


And my other Heartthrob so named as I lost one during summer to mites

[hjelte]

The top picture looks like a ribbon snake to me, thamnophis sauritus possibly. It has those characteristic white cheeks and long slender body!
The bottom one looks like a red sided sirtalis but wait for a more qualified person to answer!

[Stefan-A]

I'd agree with the first one being a ribbon of some sort. It's also got the characteristic white dot in front of the eye and white labials, and the lateral stripe seems to be higher than on most garters. Then there's the head shape and slender body. But maybe a more qualified person could correct me.

[ssssnakeluvr]

The top one is a ribbon, unsure which species. The bottom looks like a red sided garter. Where are they from, that helps with ID, along with clearer pics. The valley garter looks similar also, but I'm gonna say red sider for now. Do you have any better pics?? Nice looking snakes too!!!

[zirliz]

younger one
Cute

[Sid]

Hi Zirliz,

The first looks like an Eastern Ribbon- Thamnophis sauritus nitae. They normally have a blue to blue green color. I agree the other appears to be a red sided.

Sid

[Thamnophis]

Because the spots on top of the head look "big" and are not touching eachother I think that the first one is no T. sautritus, but a T. proximus. But A detailed picture of the side and top of the head would help to make sure.
In T. sauritus these spots are very small and mostly touch eachother.
The other snake looks like a T. sirtalis parietalis.

[zirliz]

Oh, really how confusing

[zirliz]

[zirliz]

One more thing if some said they had a Garter that was black with yellow stripes what species would you think you meant?