Smallest Garter or Ribbon Snake

[Chris 1]

Hey i was just wondering if you guys could tell me what the smallest Garter or Ribon snake is. I currently own a Royal which is really large bodied so i wanna get something quite small, for a change.

[gregmonsta]

I would just choose a species you like and then buy a male. The smallest species you won't find here in the UK ... or even Europe.
The males of most species will only average about 2-2.5'.

[guidofatherof5]

Smallest would be Thamnophis ordinoides (Northwestern Garter Snake).
Not sure if they are available across the pond.

[DIRK]

Hi

isn´t Thamnophis exul the smallest spec.?

greetings from germany
Dirk

[EasternGirl]

Are dekayis available over there? They are quite small aren't they? Not a garter of course...but very small.

[ConcinusMan]

Smallest would be Thamnophis ordinoides (Northwestern Garter Snake).
Not sure if they are available across the pond.

I agree. T. ordinoides. Adults as small as 12 inches are capable of breeding. The largest I have ever found was a very old female, just 2.5 feet. (76 cm) That was an exceptionally large one. Normally an adult female doesn't exceed 18 inches (45.7 cm) and males are significantly smaller. Litters are also generally small, usually 2-7 offspring.

I don't think this species is available outside the U.S. and they are just now becoming more common in U.S. collections.

[Stefan-A]

Smallest would be Thamnophis ordinoides (Northwestern Garter Snake).
Not sure if they are available across the pond.

Thamnophis exsul, Thamnophis godmani and Thamnophis brachystoma. 45-55 cm.

[ConcinusMan]

I guess it's not surprising to learn that T. brachystoma is a very close relative to T. ordinoides, based on DNA testing.

[guidofatherof5]

I stand corrected.

[kibakiba]

Well, they are one of the smallest