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    New and confused

    Hi all, I'm new to this world and confused about all the abbreviations and some of the meanings regarding coloring.

    I've looked up some of the words, but other abbreviations are confusing. For two examples, I saw somethings on other posts like:

    Piebald, which I am familiar with from horses, meaning black and white, but the snake was not black and white

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    100% "Het", which I would have interpreted to mean "heterozygous" for the color trait, is that the percent chance that it is het? Or am I way off on what is being conveyed here?

    If there's a good post already or a reference online for all these terms, I'd love to have a link to it.

    Thanks so much!
    Stephi

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    Re: New and confused

    There are lots of different morphs of different snakes and there named many different things
    a piebald in a snake has random patches of white, here it is in aball python

    Quote Originally Posted by mtolypetsupply View Post
    Hi all, I'm new to this world and confused about all the abbreviations and some of the meanings regarding coloring.

    I've looked up some of the words, but other abbreviations are confusing. For two examples, I saw somethings on other posts like:

    Piebald, which I am familiar with from horses, meaning black and white, but the snake was not black and white

    and

    100% "Het", which I would have interpreted to mean "heterozygous" for the color trait, is that the percent chance that it is het? Or am I way off on what is being conveyed here?

    If there's a good post already or a reference online for all these terms, I'd love to have a link to it.

    Thanks so much!
    Stephi
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    Re: New and confused

    you are 110% white, a piebald snake has areas of white on it, and the "hets: you saw are (hopefully) carrying this trait and will produce some when bred back to one another.
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    Re: New and confused

    and yea het is short for heterozygous,
    ok lets say A=albino N= normal H= 100% het for albino

    AxA= all albinos
    AxN= all 100% het for albino
    HxH= half albino half 100% het for albino
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    Re: New and confused

    Stephanie brings up a good question I've been trying to figure out.

    Why, when we're taught "het" means it's showing the gentic carrying, does "het" in snakes mean you can't see it?

    Like 100% het for albino would mean - as I was taught - not only does it carry the gene but it shows it.

    Basically, het = what you see is what you get.

    I'm still confused. I need more baby steps!
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    Re: New and confused

    homozygous shows the trait, heterozygous is recessively carrying the trait but not displaying it, as it is not dominant in the animals genes.
    I think so anyhow, off the top of my head.

    In a simple recessive trait like albinism, and the majority of other color morphs, the animal needs to inherit the gene from each parent to be homozygous. If it only get the gene from one parent, its not enough to make that trait dominant in that animal, so it is only a carrier at that point- heterozygous.

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    Re: New and confused

    BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG

    Sheesh but my forehead hurts. And dang if there isn't a flat spot on it from it hitting my desk...

    HOMOZYGOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks, Loren!
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    Re: New and confused

    No problem- but like I said, I wrote that off the top of my head and didnt fact check it, but I think its worded correctly (or close enough ).

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    Re: New and confused

    It's very correct. I remember now you pointed out the differences. I always did have trouble differentiating the two... Prolly because of the 'zygous' ending.

    As soon as I read what you'd typed, it came back: homo = same; what you see is what you get.

    Ittiz tough having a head full of all this stuff and it gets mixed up as you get older. But trust me, Love, I'll not forget your name once I get all this surgery done.

    You are a love, Larry.
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    Re: New and confused

    Quote Originally Posted by Garter_Gertie View Post
    But trust me, Love, I'll not forget your name once I get all this surgery done.

    You are a love, Larry.





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