Post pics of your anery red sideds?

[Jeff B]

Thats a beutiful snake Don, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that would be a melanistic, lol

here's my ordinoides.... unfortunately he passed away last winter during brumation

[ConcinusMan]

I am going to post a wanted Ad on KS for Black Bean Phantom Gasses.

If the price you're offering is right, I'm sure someone will have that for you. No problem.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Thanks Jeff!! had a very faint pattern, was a nice snake, doing well, good health, died for no apparent reason....

[Scott F]

Hey I'm thinking tutti fruitti for the erythristic albinos, what do you all think ?? lol

Scott

[ConcinusMan]

Sure, why not. It's not any less meaningful than calling a melanistic+amelanistic eastern a "snow"

[ConcinusMan]

Thanks Jeff!! had a very faint pattern, was a nice snake, doing well, good health, died for no apparent reason....

That's it. I'm not sending you any more northwesterns. You seem to have a knack for killing them.

I've never seen a melanistic northwestern that didn't have at least a faint stripe. Many of them aren't as dark as yours was either and look similar to "anery" radix. They tend to be a very dark charcoal gray and have visible stripes just slightly lighter than the rest of the snake. I had heard that Vancouver Island is known to have melanistic ordinoides.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Hey Richard, it was an older male, was in good health, but I got him several years ago at the reptile expo here from some friends that found him up there...

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, well being an island, once the melanistic gene is established, it's not surprising that the effectively closed gene pool produces quite a few of them on the island. Heck, even the normal looking ones on the island are probably hets. I also hear that polymorphism is practically non-existent in that population. Very little variety.

[BUSHSNAKE]

I was hoping for a good arguement against mine..."mel vs anery" but all i got was sarcasim and "look at the picture" didnt prove anything to me. Scott and jeff your arguments are really poor...monkey see monkey do...your snows show this... It is the albino that is taking away the black pigment(in all cases,anery or mel call it what you want) AND THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM BEING CALLED ANERY OR MELANISTIC

[Stefan-A]

Passive-aggressive crap deleted.