Updated Pics of Anery Radix

[Selkielass]

Nice definitions.
I'd love to see a sticky thread that is a sort of Garter snake lexicon of color terms, nicknames for morphs and varieties and shorthand terms used around this forum- I'm still trying to figure out some of the lingo around here, even with lots of Google-ing.

[ConcinusMan]

Maybe this link will help. It explains most of the terms we use. In this case "Anery" is short of anerythristic.

The One And Only Genetics Wizard

[Selkielass]

Oh cool! I hadn't seen that- will have to study when I'm more awake.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, that one is not easy to find for some reason. Have to google "genetics wizard" to find it. You said "I'm still trying to figure out some of the lingo around here"

Well, I'm a Lingo. That's my last name, and nobody has figured me out yet.

[mtolypetsupply]

only marginally on topic: anerythristic is Mikhaila's favourite word to use when playing hangman with new acquaintances

Give her the word "syzygy". She'll stump everyone, at least the first time she pulls that out.

Nice definitions.
I'd love to see a sticky thread that is a sort of Garter snake lexicon of color terms, nicknames for morphs and varieties and shorthand terms used around this forum- I'm still trying to figure out some of the lingo around here, even with lots of Google-ing.

One of the major problems with some of the terms is that a good number, at least to me, seem to have been adopted from the scientific community, but have taken on a different definition in the hobby.

Colloquially, "codom" means that when one of those alleles (not "genes" as people say) is present, ie the "het form", it exhibits a pattern different from the "dominant" (well, if it were really dominant, it would override the codom, so wouldn't it also be codom?) Wild Type or "normal".

Incomplete dominance alters the phenotype slightly. (IMO, like mojave alters wild type in ball pythons). Semi- dominant would bring a compromise between the two homozygous forms. I don't have a snake reference off the top of my head, but like a red flower crossed with a white flower makes a pink flower. Co-dominant completely alters the appearance as a compromise between the two. Like a red flower x white flower = red flower with white spots.

There are also so many traits about which we attribute a simple, single allele as responsible for the trait, while we may actually be dealing with multiple alleles.

There's lots more info on this, but, like Richard, I just don't feel like looking up references for you. (LOL, JK, I have to get in the shower and take my kid to the fair, don't have time now. )


That's why I'm going to have my lab. Too much still needs to be studied before we would have definitive answers.

Yes, those who have requested positions so far will be my first and top employees, and all testing of their snakes will be free for life.

[ConcinusMan]

Give her the word "syzygy". She'll stump everyone, at least the first time she pulls that out.



One of the major problems with some of the terms is that a good number, at least to me, seem to have been adopted from the scientific community, but have taken on a different definition in the hobby.

Colloquially, "codom" means that when one of those alleles (not "genes" as people say) is present, ie the "het form", it exhibits a pattern different from the "dominant" (well, if it were really dominant, it would override the codom, so wouldn't it also be codom?) Wild Type or "normal".

Incomplete dominance alters the phenotype slightly. (IMO, like mojave alters wild type in ball pythons). Semi- dominant would bring a compromise between the two homozygous forms. I don't have a snake reference off the top of my head, but like a red flower crossed with a white flower makes a pink flower. Co-dominant completely alters the appearance as a compromise between the two. Like a red flower x white flower = red flower with white spots.

Exactly! I have a concinnus that I am pretty sure is that phenotype ^^^

It's not a blue anery, it's not wild-type. It ends up being hypoerythristic, no blue but faded colors with light yellow spots. It is from the same population that has blue anery's and normals. I'll be breeding him to one of the blue girls. It'll be interesting to see the results and see how the babies "color up"

[Selkielass]

Thanks Stephi for the info!
There are an *awful* lot of 'different' uses of terms in the snake communities, hence my wish for a glossary of some sort- it would I realize be a big task to compile tho.

[BUSHSNAKE]

hey maybe the blue pickeringii is an anery phase of the red pickeringii...prob not

[ConcinusMan]

There you go again with those crazy ideas of yours.

Yeah.... probably not. It might just be coincidence but the red phase pickeringii's occur where fitchii's range overlaps or is very close.

[BUSHSNAKE]

if you call me crazy cuz i call it as i see it then im big time crazy..possibly insane