Jesse's garter snakes

[kueluck]

Oopps, sorry if I offended someone. Guess the sense of humor from x-military is WAY different than others.

[Stefan-A]

Guess the sense of humor from x-military is WAY different than others.

Some ex-military do display a lack of tact.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I read an article explaining the evolutionary uses of scents of reptiles in a reptile magazine.It mentioned that sometimes male garters have scents that are similar to females due to in balances in certain hormones,this causes other males to persue him as if it is a receptive female.

[ConcinusMan]

I'm aware of that but that's not what's happening here. What you mentioned is probably an adaptation to cold/ northern climates and it seems it's only red sided garters that do this, and only a few of them are "female mimmicks", and only at the time of year when they first emerge from the dens. The theory is that attracting numerous males to pile on top of the female mimmick, has a thermoregulatory advantage.

For some reason, the attaction happens every time my female concinnus' shed, regardless of the time of year. Right after shedding, the males try to court the females although the attraction isn't as strong or long lasting as it is when they are receptive to mating. I've personally never had a male try to mate with a male though. It's always been male on female, right after she sheds. It also doesn't seem to attract a T. ordinoides to a concinnus though. Just concinnus to concinnus. At least that's what I have observed.

[RedSidedSPR]

Well this is male to male, and parietalis to concinnus.

And he's still doing it...

BOTH my parietalis btw.

The annoying part is keeping them seperated. I don't have a spare cage. When I put him in with the other snakes, smoke does the same thing, when I put smoke with spooner, he does it to smoke. There's no possible combination of snakes that doesn't result in weirdness.

Been keeping rooster in a tub with a heat lamp, he's cool with it. Actually seemed to be realeaved to be out of there. I don't blame him.......

[ConcinusMan]

Be careful. I don't recommend using a heat lamp for tubs. A heat mat would be better, just barely under one end. Watch out for warping and watch the temps carefully. Sounds like rooster could use a cold shower, lol.

[RedSidedSPR]

I was careful, it's so damn cold in this house I turned it on sometimes, but only a 40 watt and it wasn't a problem.

Smoke is over it. So he's in the cage with everyone else for now

Be careful. I don't recommend using a heat lamp for tubs. A heat mat would be better, just barely under one end. Watch out for warping and watch the temps carefully. Sounds like rooster could use a cold shower, lol.

[ConcinusMan]

I was careful, it's so damn cold in this house I turned it on sometimes, but only a 40 watt and it wasn't a problem.

Smoke is over it.

Then it's probably too hot. It shouldn't smoke at all.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Well, i thought it was funny!

oopps, sorry if i offended someone. Guess the sense of humor from x-military is way different than others.

[RedSidedSPR]

Then it's probably too hot. It shouldn't smoke at all.

Crap, then I guess the flames must be bad too..