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    Old and wise snake KITKAT's Avatar
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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Quote Originally Posted by zooplan View Post
    Fair
    but fairer if the offspring was fed twice or more times.
    To take aberrant specimen could be worse, beacuse they might be the future of the population.
    On the other hand are resessive alleles common within a genpool before they occur in phenotypes.
    At this point we are back to the r and K-species, Stefan, but I canīt find the thread at the moment.
    She is aberrant, but is like others in the area, so not the only one. AND, she would have been chopped to pieces with the neighbor's hoe if I had not rescued her, and would have met that end again if she returned to the site before the neighbor finished her pond.

    Also, some of the babies ate right away, others took longer, and some were fed twice or more while I figured out which ones had the aberrant trait (develops with age).

    At any rate, the purpose of my taking her was to save her life, and keep her out of harm's way until my neighbor finished replacing her pond liner. It just happened that she dropped her litter while that took place.

    The four offspring, BTW, are my only WC garters. I don't normally take WC.
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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Quote Originally Posted by LushLulu85 View Post
    was this your first snake? how long had you had her?
    about 1 month
    this is Garter turf man

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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    More or less to say, his snake was a "gift" from me. My friend found her curled near her pool heater; if she'd stuck around eventually she'd have been killed by her dad or the lawn truck. I had only the slightest impression she was gravid; turns out she was. I've seen the babies and his setup for them; all are eating well, a much higher success rate than even we "professionals" usually have. So, if the babies are doing well, mom's still alive, the babies are headed for good homes, who's to say his endeavors aren't a success and a good springboard into the deeper end of the hobby?
    0.1 Storeria dekayi
    Hoping to get some T. s. sirtalis High-Reds next summer!


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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    were not.... we are wondering why he felt the need to yell SCREW YOU at wayne for starting this thread.
    Mother of many snakes and a beautiful baby girl! I am also a polymer clay artist!


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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Yes. Nobody said anything to him at all other then why you yelling at Wayne!
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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Quote Originally Posted by person365 View Post
    SCREW YOU!

    That's not the way we speak to each other here. Don't do it.
    James.

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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Oi, thats actually the very first time I see an reaction like that on this forum!
    It makes me wonder about the change of atmosphere here...
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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Unfortunatly, i think, that is what comes with the forum growing.

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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    Well, I expected the forum to reach that level about a year and a half ago. I'm almost amazed we've lasted this long without personal attacks becoming "routine".

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    Re: A disturbing trend, really disturbing

    look
    we're all still here
    as long as we make sure, new people learn that bad language is not welcome here . . .
    my own people skills are inconsistent at times of stress
    Person365 (sorry - don't know your name) - next time you feel attacked - please do a reality check - even something as simple as "hey - you talking to me, man?"
    rhea
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