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  1. #51
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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Haha you might be right. As long as he stays green I could not care less as that is the other species I was most interested in.

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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    That and he has been awesome to watch no far. Ate some worm today.

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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by AntTheDestroyer View Post
    Haha you might be right. As long as he stays green I could not care less as that is the other species I was most interested in.
    not might be...thats a plains gerter lol if hes green now hes going to stay that way might even have a blue hue when he gets older. i had a double het male that was the same way he had a nice blue tint when he matured.

  4. #54
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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Interesting though I doubt he is het for anything. Thanks for the information, that makes this the first snake I own native to my own state. Might shoot them an email and let them no they have no idea what they have.

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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    I just added two northern redbellies to an enclosure with a male garter(who is a runt) and a Dekays brown. I think they should all get along as i've found these three species together under boards before.

    They were all sharing the same hide within a few hours of being put in the enclosure and didn't seem concerned with each others presence, there's multiple hides I guess they just liked that one. Now today only one redbellied is still sharing, the other is burrowing in the pothos roots now.

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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Storeria occipitomaculata occipitomaculata, beautiful snake.
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  7. #57
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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Don't garter snakes and eat newts? Also if the fire bellies are poisoness the you are risking the health of both species. I could be wrong.

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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    lol Storeria occipitomaculata is like a small Storeria dekayi with a bright red belly. Google them, they're pretty. I rehabbed one that had gotten bitten by a cat a couple years ago... He ate a time or two for me, but it was clear he didn't like being in captivity.
    Also, just for fun, there is a population of garters that overlaps the firebelly range, and those snakes are the only known animals on the planet with an immunity to the toxin. If you were to feed one to a garter from a different part of the country it'd probably die, but that one population seems to have won the evolutionary arms race with the newt.

    Zdravko: What do you feed your occipitomaculata? I'm just curious since this is the first I've heard of one thriving in captivity. I'm sure it can be done, it's just uncommon from what I've heard
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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Storeria occipitomaculata occipitomaculata, beautiful snake.
    They sure are and they come in a whole bunch of natural morphs, too bad they are so hard to breed because the babies come out 3 inches long. I still want to try it one day.

    Quote Originally Posted by d_virginiana View Post

    Zdravko: What do you feed your occipitomaculata? I'm just curious since this is the first I've heard of one thriving in captivity. I'm sure it can be done, it's just uncommon from what I've heard
    I've been catching garden slugs and tiny worms and just release them in the enclosure for them to hunt when they want, I haven't had them very long so only time will tell how they do. But they are in a naturalistic setup, which I think is much better for this species. I don't think they would do well in barebones enclosures or with unnatural substrates, they seem more intolerable than garters or brown snakes. Live plants, slugs, pillbugs, sow bugs, springtails, beetles, etc, live in the enclosure, set it up all with stuff I caught in the backyard which is native to the area.

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    Re: Multiple species in one enclosure

    Well you guys were right that really bit me in my ***. I will elaborate more when this is all resolved. For now I am looking at a T. s. sirtalis and wondering how they are as pets? How are they compared to T. s. infernalis and T. radix? Any information is useful.

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