Other pets (pics and discussions)

[jwolfe152]

ok good to know...but i checked everything legs and neck and no leeches at all. and she doesnt over eat i gave her a half a worm and she didnt even eat it all. if it stops raining for awhile tomorrow im going to set some tad poles and throw them in her tank so she can eat when she catches them

[d_virginiana]

My husband went to pick up crickets yesterday, and called saying there was an ad for a baby ball python that couldn't be sold as a pet because it was too aggressive and was up for adoption. I agreed to go look at it and was thinking about maybe getting it in a few days, but when I got in I saw a foot-long baby with a badly retained shed. It was already breathing hard, and they said they'd normally soak one, but this one was so difficult to handle after soaking that they wouldn't do it.
SO, I ended up taking it home with me. Ten minutes after I got it home, I had helped it get the shed off, and it rode around on my wrist while I set up a rubbermaid tub. Still need to get a couple things for the setup, but I figured a partial setup would be better than keeping that shed on another two days.

Her name is Moose, and as you can see she's very aggressive. Honestly, I'm not sure what they were doing that upset her, because she's one of the most laid back snakes I've ever dealt with. Also, what kind of deluded person buys a pet snake thinking that it's tame and will never bite?

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[guidofatherof5]

I like Moose.

[jwolfe152]

wow i like moose he looks good.

on another note i think i got a new cat today. i was at the dollar general store picking up some milk and mt dew, well when i walk out i saw a black cat and it shot in the door behind me. i got my stuff in the truck and see the employee shoo him out so i went to see it and i felt horrible. the poor guy looked like he had a collar on him for to long and/or tight because he has no hair around his neck and a lot of dead skin and scabs.

well i was petting him and he rolled over the started rubbing like cats do. i decided to test his temperament and went to pick him up and he is still trying to rub on me. so i carry him to the truck and set him in the seat and hop in and her went to the other side and laid down. he was a little scared of the movement but in just a minute or less he was pressed beside me laying down purring his butt off. i got home and told me girlfriend i grabbed a cat she look one look at him and awwww.

i got him some food and water(i can tell he had not had a real meal in sometime because i can feel the vertebrae in his back and the bones in his legs and a really skinny face) and wow he went to town. i cant let him in because he is not fixed and neither is the other stray i picked up at go mart parking lot when she was a tiny kitten(jynx). but i hope he doesn't run off i made him a little shelter outside from the rain. i really hate the way people treat cats and dogs, i hate seeing animals in that shape too.

[jwolfe152]

here are 2 photos i could get him to kinda stay still for

[ConcinusMan]

I got in I saw a foot-long baby with a badly retained shed. It was already breathing hard, and they said they'd normally soak one, but this one was so difficult to handle after soaking that they wouldn't do it.

First off, Kudos to you for recognizing the problem and intervening to help. That is a sad circumstance that occurs in the "cut flower" commerical pet industry. I don't know how many times I have seen baby corns, rat or king/milk snakes in the same condition, knowing if they would just let me try, the snake could likely be saved. But they weren't having any of that. They would rather let it die than to discount or let me try to save it free of charge. Sad. They think I'm not a vet and so not qualified. Well WTF? doesn't 25 years of experience saving snakes from just this sort of situation count for something?

I figured a partial setup would be better than keeping that shed on another two days.

And you are absolutely correct when you "figured". One more day could have sealed his fate.

as you can see she's very aggressive. Honestly, I'm not sure what they were doing that upset her, because she's one of the most laid back snakes I've ever dealt with.

Ball pythons are always laid back. If you put n animal in vice and it knows it's in danger of dying it's going to be pissed off and very defensive. That is not aggression. That's basic self-preservation instinct / self-defense. I'm constantly having to correct people that call an animal "aggressive" or "angry" when it's backed into a corner and fearing for it's life, That's self defense/fear. Not anger/aggression dammit!

We all have that instinct. it's "flight or fight". If you can't flee ,you fight. i've had the opportnity to be in that position myself I and I gotta tell you.. I was shocked at what I was capable of doing to save my azs. I had no idea I could be so strong and violent. I hope I never have to do it again but I'm also comforted by the fact that evolution/instinct did not fil me. If it had, I believe I would have died nearly 20 years ago. Thank you, evolution/instinct.. Makes me proud to be a hairless ape LoL

[d_virginiana]

First off, Kudos to you for recognizing the problem and intervening to help. That is a sad circumstance that occurs in the "cut flower" commerical pet industry. I don't know how many times I have seen baby corns, rat or king/milk snakes in the same condition, knowing if they would just let me try, the snake could likely be saved. But they weren't having any of that. They would rather let it die than to discount or let me try to save it free of charge. Sad. They think I'm not a vet and so not qualified. Well WTF? doesn't 25 years of experience saving snakes from just this sort of situation count for something?

I do have to hand it to the employee that was in charge of the adoption, that she seems to care more about the animals than most people I've met working at one of those places. But it's clear that she didn't know much anything about snakes. I've seen her quiz people when they want to get a fish and refuse to sell one until they get the right stuff. But the girl who checked us out wouldn't even touch the box... I mean, how do you justify hiring someone that can't even look at half your merchandise?

Regardless, it's probably good for Moose that she nipped whoever she did. I'm willing to bet that most people who pick up normal ball pythons from a chain petstore have no intention of keeping them for the next 30 years.

[ConcinusMan]

Sadly most do not. It's a "cut flower" trade. thousands of baby corns, pythons, etc. sold every year and yet those with adults/old snakes aren't nearly numerous enough to account for even 1/3 of them. rescues are full of abandoned and neglected snakes. mostly corns and BP's.

[guidofatherof5]

Worked with Tank (Chelydra sepentina - Common Snapping Turtle) today. Gave him a foot message and he went to sleep during it. Later, I went in and fed him some of his trout chow. If I tossed a small handful of them in the water, he would strikes at them. Lightning fast strikes. Water splashing and a lot of noise.
If I put my hand very near the water(just in front and above his head) and let them roll out into the water he takes the pellets gently barely breaking the water. I can only think he doesn't want to bite me and makes a conscious effort not to. I think this is significant being these turtle have such a bad reputation. The more I work with Tank the more I see an intelligent, non-aggressive animal. He is so curious about what goes on in the house. He has to check things out if he doesn't recognize what someone is holding or if it's someone new to the house.

[jwolfe152]

thats amazing that he wont strike and makes an effort not to. he realises food comes from your hand not your hand is food

on another note we named our new stray cat Loki