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Re: Scaleless garter
Then why the difference with all the common albinos? I mean, they are relatively inexpensive and available. I'd like to start producing the blue anery concinnus and make them available but like you were saying I don't want to "crash my own market".
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Re: Scaleless garter
A recent example of this would be the albino red sided, just a couple years ago they were expensive as heck, and rare in collections, a few people saw dollar signs and purchased pairs or trios and bred them.
Now this year the going price is 1/3 what it was 2 years ago and the dreaded bugeye from repeat inbreeding is surfacing in the stock being offered.
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Re: Scaleless garter
I know a guy who breeds scaleless texas rats. Talk to him every show.... he's usually got some at his table. Their coloration and patterning is out of this world, very different from any texas rat with scales. Scaleless-ness in both snakes and bearded dragons intensifies the color... it's mesmerizing at times. Scaleless snakes are really not that frail, they eat shed and grow like a normal snake, it's just that very few people still have them, and those who do, are not selling any, or only are selling them at very high prices.
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Re: Scaleless garter
 Originally Posted by infernalis
A recent example of this would be the albino red sided, just a couple years ago they were expensive as heck, and rare in collections, a few people saw dollar signs and purchased pairs or trios and bred them.
Now this year the going price is 1/3 what it was 2 years ago and the dreaded bugeye from repeat inbreeding is surfacing in the stock being offered.
Wayne, the price drop was set by Scott, I don't think this market was crashed with overproduction as much as a lack of interest by buyers for anything other than eastern garter morph, thats where the demand is, prices never stay the same over the first 3yrs with any morph, to my knowledge only 3-4 people produced albino re-sideds this year. I have had no problem selling them at the same price Scott set, and am almost sold out and I am sure the few that I have left will sell in the fall for even more money than the babies. I personally started with two unrelated double het pairs (double het for albino and anery) and none of my babies this year or last have bug eyes. Not sure who you are refering to.
Could you please futher substantiate your claims
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Re: Scaleless garter
I agree... I have not seen any bug eyed albino redsideds? They have not been mass produced either, nothing like the albino checkered, if any snake would have bug eyes from excessive inbreeding it would be those! My albino redsided girlie is such a stunner... can't wait to pair her with that anery male that was once yours jeff!
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Re: Scaleless garter
Well that just happens to be one of my favorite albinos. Just about any albino with deep red or orange on it is great but the red-sideds are just spectacular. Still too darn expensive for me right now.
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Re: Scaleless garter
 Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan
Well that just happens to be one of my favorite albinos. Just about any albino with deep red or orange on it is great but the red-sideds are just spectacular. Still too darn expensive for me right now.
What nice about the albino redsided is that the red is just there... no playing around with flames, or erythristics to hope you get some red ones!!!
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Re: Scaleless garter
 Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe
I agree... I have not seen any bug eyed albino redsideds? They have not been mass produced either, nothing like the albino checkered, if any snake would have bug eyes from excessive inbreeding it would be those! My albino redsided girlie is such a stunner... can't wait to pair her with that anery male that was once yours jeff!
Yeah, Shannon how's that ole boy doing? he was such a nice snake and handsome too, I don't know why I ever got rid of him, that's one snake that i have thought many times, why did I get rid of him. I also wonder why I sold one of my flame females last year. I still think the albino red-sided is the nicest looking of all albinos, and they usually have super nice dispositions too, compaired to some of my cranky easterns, the problem with their popularity is there isn't umpteen other red-sided morphs to cross them to, like there is with the easterns.
Hey it would be cool if you produce some babies from that cross if I could get a baby or two from you, good for outcrossing but also kinda nostalgic too.
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Re: Scaleless garter
Tell me these betty boop eyes look normal to you.....Even a guy up the street who knows nothing about snakes said to me just last week "wow those eyes look huge"

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Re: Scaleless garter
hmmm Yeah I don't know maybe a little big, not freakishly big though. I've noticed some variablility of eye size in general. Even the wild caught mertle beach has unusually big head and huge eyes and I have a couple snakes that seem like they have unusually small eyes, my adult nebraska albino has small eyes, but they look perfect. I think the albinos tend to look bigger without the pigment, but I see your point. Is that a snake I produced? I don't think you have bought any albino red-sided from me?
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