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    Re: First young of the year!

    Very nice congradulation!

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    Re: First young of the year!

    Heeeeellllllll yeaaaaaahhhh!

    just found 58 young in the high red parietalis viv.
    More info and pictures soon (tonight...I promise )
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    Re: First young of the year!

    Wow, that's an awesome clutch. Congrats with them!
    Greetz, Hans

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    Re: First young of the year!

    Thanks Hans,
    I´m reaaaaally happy with ´m!

    Pictures!




    Now the dwarfs...midgets...whatever.
    Two of m in this litter. Very lively, but I decided to euthanise them.
    0.7 grams each. One of them had a bad eye....
    On my hand


    Compared to normal young


    Eye
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    Re: First young of the year!

    Yessir your lucky!!!I can imagine your face when you saw the babies!!

    Its awesome,58 babies its a huge litter ...In capitivity garter snake tend to have smaller litter than wild specimen of the same size ,and have more incidence ,on 58 babies in total 56 in good shape !!Is she captive bred??? If yes your the king!!!!!!!!!tell us what kind of light you use, food ,everything,Its a success what is your secret???

    WE use to see malformation,death babies etc.
    Did you fed her with what they feed in the wild??NO rodent???

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    Re: First young of the year!

    Thanks Charles,
    Whats the secret? I guess its because she did not have young last year. She had her rest.
    She's captive bred. I bought her at 6 months old and she's in her 6th year now.
    I use a normal heatbulb (25 watt) which creates a heatspot of around 32 celcius. The cooler areas in the viv are around 25 degrees.
    Her hibernation this year was pretty cold (colder then I wanted) at 2 degrees celcius for at least one week.
    I feed her a variety of fish. Pinky mice once every now and then (I guess twice a month, max.) A few nightcrawlers every now and then are apreciated.
    Thats basically it. Nothing special I guess!

    *update on the young...The first one ate *
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    Re: First young of the year!

    Lovely bunch nice range of patterns. Will be interesting to see how they'll colour up
    Keeping - 'Florida blue' sirtalis, concinnus, infernalis, parietalis, radix, marcianus and ocellatus.

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    Re: First young of the year!

    I also start with 25 what ,now she is on 40 watts,Im almost in same temperature range 32-27.My snake room was too hot for few weeks because i though my boa constrictor c. was gravid .My eastern is gravid at 90/100.at her first stage of pregnency it was too hot ,more than I should!This my only concern.

    I hope to have the same result ,over 50 babies for 6 years old female is very good.By the way I'm still convice rodent are not very good for garter snake,twice a month is ok ,I see It work very well in this case...My friends experiences told me a lot about it.No more birth deffect ,bigger litter,etc.
    I think people should learn by their experiences,but also learn from someoone else experience in some case its better.
    I want to see the evolution of your babies they are so pretty!!

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    Re: First young of the year!

    Thanks Greg and Charles!

    @Charles; I agree. There are a lot of breeders that feed nothing then mice. In my opinion this isnt right. Garters arent made for it (but then again, perhaps they arent made for pure fish diets either)

    You will see the evolution of the young. My first thought was to hold back the entire litter (except a few ). But with this number I guess its not the best idea, haha
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    Re: First young of the year!

    I know that garter snake aren't made only for fish .I keep feeding my garter snakes with worm and my trout jellow ,mixing food is better,at this time of year i pick up toad on a nearby road .I also keep a wild caught orange female ,that i feed only on toad worms and frogs I 'm gonna release her so I keep feeding with Her normal food!

    I feed with trout mixture only when worms are no available.at this time of years tey feed mainly on worms ,each day .

    I know trout mixture is far too rich for main food source ,I altern.
    Too much of something Its like not enough!!

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