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    The Leader of the Eastern Gang anji1971's Avatar
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    I don't brumate mine, and they do go off feed for a while, but never a "complete" fast. I can coax them into taking a bit every couple of weeks during October and November, and then by December they (usually) start to pick up on their own. I just wait it out and leave them be.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Okay guys... I've got problems... All of my males that I've brought out of brumation are starting to eat. I have an adult female butler's who's decided to stop eating, a smaller wandering who may be doing the same, and a big red-sider female who may or may not be off food but I can't tell since one she's in shed and two she won't eat in front of me.
    I'm thinking I should cool the butler's. I need your opinions though. She's still active, but so was my albino checkered when she stopped eating and I tried to wait things out with her... She passed. ):
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    If you're sure they're off food, Kyle, it couldn't hurt to chill them down for a couple of week, if you don't want to go for the full brumation. Sometimes it's enough to stimulate their appetite.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Okay, I just found a new locale that I could do brumating in. Our attic is roughly 20 degrees warmer than the outside air. It's 33 out and about 50 in the attic. Could I do brumating in there? If I insulated their container, would they be okay when the temperature dips?
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    So Kyle, before you do this, remember the sun is hitting the roof right now, Measure the temps tonight when it goes down, and there is no radiant heat from the light to raise it up.

    Basements are more stable, but yours is heated I assume (from pictures I have seen you post)

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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dekaybrown View Post
    So Kyle, before you do this, remember the sun is hitting the roof right now, Measure the temps tonight when it goes down, and there is no radiant heat from the light to raise it up.

    Basements are more stable, but yours is heated I assume (from pictures I have seen you post)
    My basement is heated when I want it to be. lol
    Normally it's in the low 60's down here, but I can turn on the electric fireplace to bring it into the low 70's. I'll do another measurement at about 11 tonight.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    i have been putting mine in the basement which is 55-60 and they all do fine.... and it brings meadow out of her fasting every year???
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    It hit 4 degrees Celsius in my attic. I'm thinking it's a little risky. We do have a "Crawl space" near out pantry where they would stay cool... The red-sided female shed today, and showed little interest in food, so I'll be decreasing their photoperiod and moving them down here within the next week.
    It's a good 62 here now, I'm sure it's about 58 under the stairs.

    Also... I have two baby butler's and one little eastern refusing food, as well as my dekay's. Could I put them all together? I don't think cannibalism would be a problem.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    I have found that that oil-filled radiator has a thermostat with a low enough setting that it kicks in at around 45ºF
    I created an area that's sort of tented by space blankets and has the heater inside
    basically it's a group of tanks with some insulation and the space blankets
    the sunporch is about 10º higher than outside at night and I've not needed the extra heat very much
    I did bring in the anery radix yesterday, just because they looked dry

    I don't think that grouping would be a problem, Kyle
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Kyle, as long as they have all passed the quarantine process.... I don't see why not. Dekayi's and garters are often found together in the wild!
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