New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jere000]

I would definitely go with Axanthic, here's a definition of it.Doesn't look leucistic at all.
Axanthic: lacking [xanthophores] (which produce yellow pigment)

[AntTheDestroyer]

Thanks Tommy. From those pictures it is looks like a predominantly brown, yellow, and black snake. To me it seems that removing the reds and yellows takes care of most the colors in it. So to me it seems to be another anerytheristic and axanthic morph.

[BUSHSNAKE]

My initial thought was that this is some form of leucistic, but the more I look at it I think maybe axanthic, or like a lot of garter genes something in between classic definition based on other snake species. It has normal eyes unlike leucistics. What do you guys think? Joe would really like to hear your take, but please don't tell me that it is melanistic or that you don't have an opinion
I could always call it Dalmatian, it is white with black spots.

you talking about me? I don't need you to speak for me Jeff you punk j/k good luck with it.

[Albert Clark]

I had referred to it looking like a granite pattern earlier and also possibly resembling a speckled pattern. IMO, eastern granite or eastern speckled aka speckled eastern? Jeff, you said the black patches are more squared off or spotted? IDK.

[BUSHSNAKE]

It's really not granite like the granite checkered or the golden morph where the pattern and squares are completely reduced to little irregular flecks It appears to be more a color mutation rather than a pattern mutation. All yellows, browns, and orange is stripped away and replaced with white pigment. I am not sure if the white is just what was there underneath or is it up-regulated. I think that future breedings may help answer some of those questions by the looking at the phenotypes when combined with other morphs.

whatever it is I really hope it makes more for you...goodluck

[Jeff B]

you talking about me? I don't need you to speak for me Jeff you punk j/k good luck with it.

hhhhm, was hoping for some legitamate scientific reasoning and input...

[Albert Clark]

Okay Jeff, got it. Irregular flecks like the granite and golden differentiate this eastern black and white (axanthic) bc it's more of a color mutation than a pattern mutation. And the white coloration is suspect due to not knowing if it is normally there or whether it's a upgrade. Sure looks like he is going to intergrade easily being black and white though. Thanks for the explanation.

[BUSHSNAKE]

hhhhm, was hoping for some legitamate scientific reasoning and input...

if you want you can send it to me and ill get you some answers in a couple years...that's the fun of having something new SO go have some fun with it and let us know what you find out

[Tommytradix]

Please reproduce the origanal morph before mixing into erythristics and albinos.

[BUSHSNAKE]

hhhhm, was hoping for some legitamate scientific reasoning and input...

at this point everything is speculation...right??