Hello

[Ruth]

Glad to know that they didn't sell ridiculously cheap. Such beautiful and uncommon snakes should cost a premium.

Too right. I go in there often and wonder what kind of homes some of the snakes find especially the cheap ones like the corns and some of the pythons and boas. He also sells some very high end retics that go for thousands, I don't worry about the homes they go to as they are bound to be loved.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Glad to know that they didn't sell ridiculously cheap. Such beautiful and uncommon snakes should cost a premium.

Dont even get me started LOL!
the snake in your avatar looks like obscurus

[Jeff B]

hmmmmm, Hey Ruth, I told you it was an obscurus last weekend after you contacted me via email before coming to this forum to get a second oppinion. Guess you didn't believe me huh??? lol no hard feelings, I don't blame you for getting a second or many second opinions, i'd probably do the same. By the way, I also asked you if you were in the Chicago area, because I thought that snake may have come from Joe Peck (post above). If Joe says obscurus it's gospel....done, no more opinions necessary.

[Ruth]

hmmmmm, Hey Ruth, I told you it was an obscurus last weekend after you contacted me via email before coming to this forum to get a second oppinion. Guess you didn't believe me huh??? lol no hard feelings, I don't blame you for getting a second or many second opinions, i'd probably do the same. By the way, I also asked you if you were in the Chicago area, because I thought that snake may have come from Joe Peck (post above). If Joe says obscurus it's gospel....done, no more opinions necessary.

It's because of you I found this forum so thanks. I got advice from another chap that he believed it was 100% something else so poped a post on here. I'm glad I posted on here because now its clear in mind.

[chris-uk]

I just thought, if nobody has pointed you at Steven Bol's website you should take a look because it's probably the best source of information about Mexican garter species (and your obscurus most probably comes from one of his breeding group). Steven brought most (if not all) of the Mexican species to Europe and provides great information on his site, which I think is all translated from Dutch now.

Thamnophis eques obscurus - Steven Bol Garter Snakes

[Ruth]

I just thought, if nobody has pointed you at Steven Bol's website you should take a look because it's probably the best source of information about Mexican garter species (and your obscurus most probably comes from one of his breeding group). Steven brought most (if not all) of the Mexican species to Europe and provides great information on his site, which I think is all translated from Dutch now.

Thamnophis eques obscurus - Steven Bol Garter Snakes

Thanks I have indeed been over to that site and am slowly working my way through it.

[BUSHSNAKE]

hmmmmm, Hey Ruth, I told you it was an obscurus last weekend after you contacted me via email before coming to this forum to get a second oppinion. Guess you didn't believe me huh??? lol no hard feelings, I don't blame you for getting a second or many second opinions, i'd probably do the same. By the way, I also asked you if you were in the Chicago area, because I thought that snake may have come from Joe Peck (post above). If Joe says obscurus it's gospel....done, no more opinions necessary.

your absolutely right, i know what im talking about, even when it comes to morphs, aint that right Jeff?

[Fold]

welcome to the site . I'm new as well haha.

[Jeff B]

your absolutely right, i know what im talking about, even when it comes to morphs, aint that right Jeff?

I was paying you a compliment by saying you know your species.