Canadian Shipments from the States

[scott5017]

Gotta be honest my knowledge of garter genetics isnt up to par, would love to see pictures of parents / offspring.

[EasternGirl]

This is like watching someone bringing a fifth of vodka into an AA meeting....rofl!!! I keep picturing someone putting a tub of garters on a table and members tackling each other to grab a few...ha ha. We all have it bad! I think I have enough garters on my table at the moment...I'm going to have to tap into my willpower on this one. But I am very excited for those of you getting new snakes....make sure to post pics so that I can live through you all vicariously!

[Light of Dae]

Ok So I have now (should have done it sooner) posted this same thread on an Alberta Reptile site o see if there are any others wanting in on this. Feel free to do the same in Ont, Man, Where ever. The more people the more we save.

You can copy the link and all, Give them my email which is Fire_walker_72@hotmail.com if they want in. (Ya'll can have my email to!

[Spankenstyne]

Michelle, just a heads-up but please learn the Alberta regulations before you get yourself and possibly others in legal trouble.
Of the list you posted below the only ones you could legally bring into Alberta are the 1.1 erythristic extreme red easterns.

It's not meant to sound harsh, just letting you know before you get too excited. I went through the same disappointment 5-6 years ago and went to the length of several in-person meetings with Fish & Wildlife (along with many emails & phone calls) just to be sure on how F&W interpret the regulations. I really wanted to bring some red radix up here, they're just gorgeous.

Scott is great to deal with, top notch snakes. I brought a couple of Santa Cruz garters up here from him a few years back and he went well above and beyond to help me out which I really appreciated. There are still a good number of Garters you can bring up from him though, just no Plains (radix), Wanderings (elegans), and no Red Sided (parietalis). Although we can have California Red-Sided (infernalis). The short version is we can legally keep but not import/export or sell/buy/trade any of our native Albertan garter species. Unlike some states in the US, our regs don't differentiate between wild and captive bred & morphs.

Hope that's helpful, though I know probably a bit of a bummer.

I alone would want up to eight little ones.
1.1 anery plains
1.1 axan plains
0.1 red showing red plains
1.0 red plains
1.1 erythristic extreme red easterns

That is my wish list. I figure go big or go home?
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I'm going to be so broke...


Ahhh....
All for the love of garters!

[kimbosaur]

(disregard post)

[Light of Dae]

Really? I can't bring up any plains? *Enter Jaw drop here* :'( No way! .... Radix aren't native in Ontario are they? ... there has to be a way around that...

[Spankenstyne]

Believe me if there was a way you'd already have been able to buy all sorts of radix morphs in Alberta years ago
The only way around it is to be a certified zoo or research facility and apply for the permits.This is in regards to Alberta.

Other provinces have their own regulations.

[Light of Dae]

hmm so if they come from Ontario.....

[Spankenstyne]

It makes no difference. The Alberta Wildlife Act prohibits anyone from bringing any radix into or out of Alberta without a permit period. It doesn't matter where they come from or if they're captive bred etc. It's not a US or Canada issue, it's an Alberta issue. We can only keep wild caught ones (for now, that's also being changed) but cannot buy/sell/trade or otherwise traffic in them as well. Basically we can only keep radix we find here as pets but not breed & sell them.

Here's a link to the regs that should work:
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779749782

[Light of Dae]

YAHOO Charles is ready to ship, sometime June 4-6. I will be posting pictures!!
Eastern flames are coming to me!