ID Please ASAP?

[chris-uk]

Good looking marcianus. I bet Thursday night will feel like Christmas Eve.

[Natrix]

Yeah it will, especially seeing as I am getting it for £0.00p Who's a lucky boy then.

[EasternGirl]

Sorry to be the voice of difference here...but that looks like it could be an eastern. Looks just like my easterns...remember the easterns around here have that checkering like T.marcianus. Do you have any more pics?

[guidofatherof5]

T.marcianus-Supralabials 8, lateral stripe confined to 3rd dorsal scale row on neck (rows 2 and 3 thereafter)

T.sirtalis- Supralabials usually 7, lateral stripe usually confined to dorsal scale row 2 and 3

Info. from: The Garter Snake- Ecology and Evolution by Ross, Ford and Seigel

[EasternGirl]

Yeah...I know..and Joe agrees with you guys...now I don't want his peachy albinos. Okay...I still want his peachy albinos.

[ConcinusMan]

Sorry to be the voice of difference here...but that looks like it could be an eastern. Looks just like my easterns...remember the easterns around here have that checkering like T.marcianus. Do you have any more pics?

Check out the black behind the head and black bar under and behind the eye. marcianus all the way.

[Natrix]

Sorry to be the voice of difference here...but that looks like it could be an eastern. Looks just like my easterns...remember the easterns around here have that checkering like T.marcianus. Do you have any more pics?

Garter.jpg This is the original Pic sent to me. This was taken approx 4-5 days ago.

[ConcinusMan]

Wait a second.. now it looks like a radix. I'm soooo confused

I was thinking something's not right. If it's a marcianus then the "checkers" should touch. They don't.

[chris-uk]

Fair point about the checkers touching Richard. There's some variation in the evenness of the checks on the marcianus I've seen, and generally they do touch more than they don't touch. Our Eskerina has a section where the checks are "looser" though, so is it possible that this is a marcianus with a completely "loose" checkerboard?

This could be a tough one to call before tomorrow when Rod posts up some closer and clearer pics.

[Natrix]

Wait a second.. now it looks like a radix. I'm soooo confused

I was thinking something's not right. If it's a marcianus then the "checkers" should touch. They don't.

That's why I asked for help with IDing it. 'Tis confusing