I decided I'm just going to post updates of new litters and pics here: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...s-garters.html

So far that's one litter of 14 concinnus babies and one litter of 6 ordinoides. Pics will be posted to the thread I linked to, starting on page 12. I need to figure out how to get good photos first. One's I took today are lousy and I'm tired. I'll try again soon.