piebald garter

[ConcinusMan]

"New" does not mean it should command top dollar. Too many other factors involved that affect price.

I'd just as soon buy any other albino garter with red on it.

[infernalis]

Its all about personal taste...

Albino flames are really pretty animals. But I also like black, so a "normal" flame is still red hot in my eyes.

[ConcinusMan]

They are fantastic. I really love the black flames with rich deep red sides found in the wild in quebec. I'm just not willing to pay the prices they demand. At least, not yet.

[infernalis]

I traded baby snakes for my flames. My big girl was traded for 2 hets.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6596

[gregmonsta]

It's a bit like any fashion .... which is why I refuse to pay any more than £100 a snake. Look at the royal python market where profiteering has reached some absolutely silly heights.

Yes, it may be new, but that doesn't justify the price tag in my book. Same with most albino morphs/etc in my book. Saying the price is justified due to the amount of time involved creating a certain morph is also a load of rubbish. While in pursuit of that certain morph lots of other babies will have been generated and sold on .... it's not as if morph breeding doesn't cover its costs while it's in progress.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

That is super cool... But it's also super unnatractive (no offense it's just my taste!) I think it would be cooler if it had a normals garter pattern in the brown areas... Or like Tom said... If down the road pied melanistics are produced. I am sad to see that it's rather thin... That snake should be fat and gravid right now... To me it should be a huge red flag to the potential buyers of this thing... I see the guy has wasted no time posting it for sale on fauna attempting to get as large a sum as possible for her... while many people don't see much wrong with that I feel it's a bit shallow. I really do hope she ends up in good hands FAST though regardless of how much they pay... She's not going to last long in her current state!

[sschind]

I am with you Don on the normals. I enjoy a nice "normal" garter as much as any of my morphs.

Wayne I understand that it being rare makes it worth a lot but that still doesn't make it any prettier to me. I guess if I found something like that though I would think it was the coolest find ever, but right now I just equate it with the money side of things.

-Thomas

I have yet to see ANY morph of ANY animal that I think is better looking than a really nice normal. Yeah some of them are neat looking but not better.

[GartersRock]

That is my major concern about someone spending several grand on this snake it the chances of it dying seem very high looking at the pictures... I really truly hope she doesn't. I LOVE the way the pied trait is expressed here. Like the BPs with the washed yet rich in the colored areas. Sorry Shannon I think it's stunning! And how much prettier would it be if she was fat and healthy.

I had a thought about spending the $ in hopes to make more $ off her later. Maybe the people who are willing to shell out the money are more hoping just to keep her alive and breed her and it's the price they are willing to pay to keep that morph alive? Who knows...

[sschind]

That is my major concern about someone spending several grand on this snake it the chances of it dying seem very high looking at the pictures... I really truly hope she doesn't. I LOVE the way the pied trait is expressed here. Like the BPs with the washed yet rich in the colored areas. Sorry Shannon I think it's stunning! And how much prettier would it be if she was fat and healthy.

I had a thought about spending the $ in hopes to make more $ off her later. Maybe the people who are willing to shell out the money are more hoping just to keep her alive and breed her and it's the price they are willing to pay to keep that morph alive? Who knows...

Very few people in my opinion would spend that much money for a morph without the hopes of recouping their money, and then some, down the road. I know there are aficionados out there who simply want the rare stuff but the desire to have it without the intent to breed is rare these days. I know 1 person who has had BP morphs for about 6 years and has never attempted to breed them. I know of one other guy who has a nice number of morphs, some very expensive ($20,000 plus he paid for a couple of them), all males with no intentions of breeding them. The first guy is just a hobbyist who likes certain morphs, the other guy is a very wealthy man who has a very nice collection. People like this though are few and far between.

I'm not saying that is bad. I am sure a lot of people on this forum would like to have that snake for the rarity of it and would certainly appreciate that aspect but, and no offense is intended, I'd bet anything if they bought it they would try to breed it.

Personally it doesn't concern me in the least what others are willing to spend their money on. I just hope that whoever buys it is able to keep it alive. What they do with it is up to them as long as it is treated humanely.

[BUSHSNAKE]

snake morphs have turn snake breeding into an art form! Art+Science...ya dig?