can you cross breed

[guidofatherof5]

That's interesting.
When I visited the dens 3 years ago I saw nothing but T.s.parietalis (Red Sided Garter Snake)
Never saw a single other species.

[ConcinusMan]

Probably just the timing Steve. I think that parietalis' are the last in, and first out. they are definitely not the only ones using the dens although they do make the majority. If you were to visit after the peak emergence season I'm sure you would see a variety of snakes hanging around. At least, red sided, plains, green snakes, red bellied. I think it would be quite easy to miss a dark plains or two among the masses.

I've never seen rubber boas at the dens shared with concinnus' and ordinoides, but they are there. Heck, I've never even seen ordinoides and concinnus' emerge en masse at the same time. Same site, different timing though. Concinnus' come out later, and they sort of "trickle" out instead of coming out in huge masses like the ordinoides do.

[thamneil]

Nope, Steve's observations are correct. The only other garter native to Manitoba is the plains gartersnake. The range of T. radix comes nowhere near the Narcise dens.

[ConcinusMan]

The internet is broke. Everything I can find says they are in Manitoba and range maps show them at least up to the dens. But since you live there I think the web lied.

[Kantar]

These 3 were found under the same hubcap. All of them near 3 ft long

[guidofatherof5]

Good looking snakes.
Any whole snake photos?

[Kantar]

Unfortunately no, it was tough trying to handle 3 crazy garters and a camera at the same time, the red sided I have more pictures of because that one was more fiesty and bitey. I have pictures of my hand bleeding from a bite

[guidofatherof5]

I have pictures of my hand bleeding from a bite

Sounds like a good thread title "Snake Bites"
Go for it.

[RedSidedSPR]

Hhehehehehe. I'll join on that.