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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" Jeff B's Avatar
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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My initial thought was that this is some form of leucistic, but the more I look at it I think maybe axanthic, or like a lot of garter genes something in between classic definition based on other snake species. It has normal eyes unlike leucistics. What do you guys think? Joe would really like to hear your take, but please don't tell me that it is melanistic or that you don't have an opinion
    I could always call it Dalmatian, it is white with black spots.

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Call it Harlequin. Sounds better. LOL

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Call it Harlequin. Sounds better. LOL
    May as well go with Angel and Death. For now its just black and white.

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Harlequin works better for flames though. If I ever get a girl flame I would actually call her Harley Quinn (Joker's sidekick).

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    axanthic or granite???

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ya seems like a nonpastel granite or axanthic reduced pattern to me.

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It's really not granite like the granite checkered or the golden morph where the pattern and squares are completely reduced to little irregular flecks It appears to be more a color mutation rather than a pattern mutation. All yellows, browns, and orange is stripped away and replaced with white pigment. I am not sure if the white is just what was there underneath or is it up-regulated. I think that future breedings may help answer some of those questions by the looking at the phenotypes when combined with other morphs.

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What does a normal eastern from this location look like? There seems to be a lot of variation in wild eastern populations based on locality. I wonder if comparing it to that specific locality might give you a clue as to what is going on with him?
    Last edited by AntTheDestroyer; 09-01-2015 at 07:43 AM. Reason: too early

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    here is one from north east philly. they vary so much even in the same locale

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    Re: New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    heres a couple i found in the same area around my house in south jersey

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