Without further ado... Achromatic!

[Dan72]

Jeff, also I know that figuring out more of how the axanthic gene works was something you were into, you produced what you thought were two types in a litter a few seasons ago. Are you over it? It seems you really cleaned house today listing stuff, are you going all in, doubling down on Golden easterns? I know that either because of time or space, or in most cases both, it's hard to work with EVERYTHING. But between Scott being done it seems, and you listing most everything I've known you to work with since being on the forum, I feel like my garter world has been turned on its head. By the way you listing your poster girl at 600, I might have to check what you get for giving plasma these days and how many centers for plasma donation are within driving distance, because that is one snake I'd give blood for

[Jeff B]

Jeff, also I know that figuring out more of how the axanthic gene works was something you were into, you produced what you thought were two types in a litter a few seasons ago. Are you over it? It seems you really cleaned house today listing stuff, are you going all in, doubling down on Golden easterns? I know that either because of time or space, or in most cases both, it's hard to work with EVERYTHING. But between Scott being done it seems, and you listing most everything I've known you to work with since being on the forum, I feel like my garter world has been turned on its head. By the way you listing your poster girl at 600, I might have to check what you get for giving plasma these days and how many centers for plasma donation are within driving distance, because that is one snake I'd give blood for

Dan, first of all I am not getting out of garters just because I put a few of my adults up for sale. Realize what I put up for sale yesterday is a tiny fraction of my collection and all those awesome looking snakes I have been breeding for a couple years and have been growing up their offspring, some of which are even better and you have yet to even see pictures of them. I have to do this every year and thin out a bit otherwise I would have 1000 snakes in my house and no where to walk , lol. I still have a blizzard radix and what i believe is the homozygous for blue axanthic female and a snow(black axanthic and iowa albino combo). Yes I plan to continue work with the blue axanthic and the black axanthic.
Relax I am not going anywhere, but yes you should give plasma LOL.

[Dan72]

Ssshhwoooooo...... good to hear Jeff, I can only take so much shock to my garter system at one time. So now my head will just spin with all the thoughts of the beautiful snakes your sitting on and what they may breed in the future. I am checking out plasma centers in my area.

[Albert Clark]

I just want to add a big "thank you" to you Jeff for all you have done for this hobby and the industry as a whole. You are a co-pioneer beside Scott, natiowide and world renowned who together have brought the garter snake to the fore front. Thank you again.

[Zdravko092368]

Realize what I put up for sale yesterday is a tiny fraction of my collection and all those awesome looking snakes I have been breeding for a couple years and have been growing up their offspring, some of which are even better and you have yet to even see pictures of them.

I would love to see photos of some of that huge collection of yours... so would everyone else i'm sure.

[Jeff B]

I would love to see photos of some of that huge collection of yours... so would everyone else i'm sure.

It's not that huge, though my wife would beg to differ, lol. I do have some yearlings and erythristic het golden that are looking pretty good that I need to take some pics and post up.

[Dan72]

Mark's original het female dropped 12 today. The odds were not with us as they were last year. 9 hets and 3 achromatic. So as it stands there are 17 total this year w/ possibly one girl to go. After holdbacks and any failure to thrive issues, there will be a limited amount of these to go around this year. I will give forum members first crack at these guys, then I will be posting to the Facebook groups.

[Rushthezeppelin]

Hope last one drops plenty of girls.....really wanting one of those.

[Dan72]

Spoke with Mark tonight at length. Long story short he said he has no problem with referring to these as B/W axanthic. The reason he went with something different is because he didn't want there to be any confusion when talking the two types because axanthic was already being used to describe the blue axanthic (if that's what we are calling them). So as long as we all know what we are talking about from here forward these will be referenced as B/W axanthic. He did want to point out that achromatic does however work as well
His concern is not in a name as much as getting these out to those who want them.

[Tommytradix]

Spoke with Mark tonight at length. Long story short he said he has no problem with referring to these as B/W axanthic. The reason he went with something different is because he didn't want there to be any confusion when talking the two types because axanthic was already being used to describe the blue axanthic (if that's what we are calling them). So as long as we all know what we are talking about from here forward these will be referenced as B/W axanthic. He did want to point out that achromatic does however work as well
His concern is not in a name as much as getting these out to those who want them.

now what do we call steves?... ahahaha type 2? im not actually sure his will be proved out anytime soon. ive spoken to him plenty of times trying to get one and offered everything but my soul lol (my soul is still available btw) unless steve is planning a breeding but if he is he hasn't told me. I really want to see these 2 types side by side in person but looks as though that's some time away for now