I found an Albino Garden Snake

[WarriorPrincess]

No neurotoxins huh? LOL! I didn't even know she had teeth!!! Well don't I feel silly!

[guidofatherof5]

Those little needle teeth are great for holding prey or biting loved ones.

[WarriorPrincess]

Well I read to wake them from bermation you should give them a luke warm bath. But I think I was misinformed. Uh well I'll keep researching since she didn't like that much. Just got worried cause she went sleep without totally emptying her tummy and I didn't want anything to go funky in her tummy. Guess I'll let her just do her thang her own way. She's mad with good reason I guess. Ya just don't wake them up that way. Hey I'm still learning so hopefully everyone here gives me some slack. I Love her and I'm doing my best so please no hater comments folks :-) And Thanks Steve for letting me know I will live LOL!

[chris-uk]

Well I read to wake them from bermation you should give them a luke warm bath. But I think I was misinformed. Uh well I'll keep researching since she didn't like that much. Just got worried cause she went sleep without totally emptying her tummy and I didn't want anything to go funky in her tummy. Guess I'll let her just do her thang her own way. She's mad with good reason I guess. Ya just don't wake them up that way. Hey I'm still learning so hopefully everyone here gives me some slack. I Love her and I'm doing my best so please no hater comments folks :-) And Thanks Steve for letting me know I will live LOL!

You've just learned that she will tell you in no uncertain terms if you treat her in a way she doesn't like.
Regards the waking from brumation. Have you turned of her heat or moved her to a cold place? If she's just become inactive and hanging out in the cold parts of her viv, but still has the choice of moving to a warm spot, then you don't need to worry about her digestive system not being clear as she will regulate her own temp to digest the food and won't let it go rotten in her stomach. The time you need to be sure they are empty is when you force them into a brumation situation (like when I take mine out to their brumation chamber in my garage).

[BLUESIRTALIS]

As far as preparing for brumation goes i feed mine real heavy for a month to make sure they have good weight and then i take them off feed for 2 weeks and before i put them in brumation i give them a nice long soak in luke warm water just to make sure they don't have anything left in their stomach. When i bring them out of brumation i gradually warm them up to the desired temp and then i let them settle for a few days before i offer food! I wouldn't soak them in warm water to wake them from brumation out of fear that going from cold to hot too fast could cause them to go into shock! She should be just fine, but i'm a little worried about you! Lol!

well i read to wake them from bermation you should give them a luke warm bath. But i think i was misinformed. Uh well i'll keep researching since she didn't like that much. Just got worried cause she went sleep without totally emptying her tummy and i didn't want anything to go funky in her tummy. Guess i'll let her just do her thang her own way. She's mad with good reason i guess. Ya just don't wake them up that way. Hey i'm still learning so hopefully everyone here gives me some slack. I love her and i'm doing my best so please no hater comments folks :-) and thanks steve for letting me know i will live lol!

[ConcinusMan]

As far as preparing for brumation goes i feed mine real heavy for a month to make sure they have good weight and then i take them off feed for 2 weeks and before i put them in brumation i give them a nice long soak in luke warm water just to make sure they don't have anything left in their stomach. When i bring them out of brumation i gradually warm them up to the desired temp and then i let them settle for a few days before i offer food! I wouldn't soak them in warm water to wake them from brumation out of fear that going from cold to hot too fast could cause them to go into shock! She should be just fine, but i'm a little worried about you! Lol!

Forget it dude. She's a lost cause. She won't listen, and won't take advice, (because we are all haters) an in this case she took a tidbit out of context and ran over cliff with it. This could have killed the snake easily. i consider it a miracle the snake has survived this long.

[guidofatherof5]

Forget it dude. She's a lost cause. She won't listen, and won't take advice, (because we are all haters) an in this case she took a tidbit out of context and ran over cliff with it. This could have killed the snake easily. i consider it a miracle the snake has survived this long.

I think you were rather harsh Richard.

We've all made mistakes in our garter journey.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

When I said I was a little worried about her it was a joke about her getting bit! As far as the soak thing goes she was either misinformed by someone or maybe the snake was already warmed up and she just gave It a soak. I just wanted her to be aware of the issue just in case she was misinformed! I think she has done an awesome job considering she never kept a snake before! This is a learning experience for us all and we learn new things everyday so we need to take what we have learned and use it to help and encourage others and that is why I gave her my advice on how I brumate and bring out my animals. This works with great success for me! I don't think Richard means to sound hateful he is just very personal when it comes to ordies considering he has wanted an albino for years and most people that posted them up just disappeared so thank you for continuing to keep us updated! Did you get a male for her?

As far as preparing for brumation goes i feed mine real heavy for a month to make sure they have good weight and then i take them off feed for 2 weeks and before i put them in brumation i give them a nice long soak in luke warm water just to make sure they don't have anything left in their stomach. When i bring them out of brumation i gradually warm them up to the desired temp and then i let them settle for a few days before i offer food! I wouldn't soak them in warm water to wake them from brumation out of fear that going from cold to hot too fast could cause them to go into shock! She should be just fine, but i'm a little worried about you! Lol!

[NancyG]

When do we get to see some more pics of how big she's gotten? I think the last time I saw any she was a little pudgy!!

[ConcinusMan]

I don't think Richard means to sound hateful he is just very personal when it comes to ordies considering he has wanted an albino for years and most people that posted them up just disappeared

Yes, pretty much. A few of these have been found in the past few years which is just unheard of and it's always someone that doesn't know the first thing about husbandry or makes a "newbie mistake" like this one and kills it, or allows it to escape, or we never hear from them again. In spite of the unprecedented number of chances lately to get this morph in captivity, and get it reproducing, every chance has gone out the window due to the hardheadedness and unwillingness to listen to experienced advice and it's just very frustrating. But simply stating this, she threw a tantrum and said i was "hating". notice how defensive she was "no hater comments".

I think she has done an awesome job considering she never kept a snake before!

I think so too, but growing it up is only the first step. There's still brumating and reproduction to get through. A daunting task for someone new to snakes and one little "newbie mistake" like this potentially fatal one and you're back to square one - waiting for another one to turn up, which happens very rarely.
We have lots of albinos in the hobby but that's only because someone who knew what they were doing ended up with the original WC snakes or offspring. And we still don't have the morph in this species because they are so rarely found. It's the potential for it to combined with all the different polygenic traits this species has that gives this such great potential in the hands of experienced breeders and that's pretty much why I'm so concerned with it, not so much for the looks of the albino itself because it's not like it's spectacular in itself or anything like that. I don't really care about getting an albino. I just want to see het offspring at least, make it into the hand of experienced breeders even if it isn't me, before something like this happens and we lose it for the 5th time in as many years.

And then I hear about this incident and it just makes me cringe.

So, i apologize to warriorprincess. I'm just frustrated and fed up because 4 or 5 have been found in as many years (which is unheard of. one usually turns up only about every 10 or 20 years) and the opportunity went right out the window every time and it darn near just did again. It's just frustrating is all. i would say the snake is definitely ready to reproduce but alas, she probably doesn't know the first thing about how to do that. That is not a "hater" comment and not a personal insult, it's just the reality. We were all "newbs" at one time and made mistakes and lost or killed snakes. But it wasn't with the only of their kind in captivity! I'll give her a dozen snakes. Heck, i'd give her 2 albino garters for that one. Let her make the mistakes with those, but not this one! know what I mean?