^-^ Mishka my new red sided garter snake ^-^

[ssssnakeluvr]

Thank you
She is isn't she!
What do you mean by valley?
I'm new to snakes, she was given to me by my brother who bought her from a pet shop here in England.

ok, it would be a red sided garter then, thamnophis sirtalis parietalis. Valley garters are a different subspecies, thamnophis sirtalis fitchi. the bright solid stripes and row of red spots along the side stripes look more like the valley garter than the typical red sided garter. but I don't think they have valley garters in Europe yet...

[GarterGuy17]

[QUOTE=ssssnakeluvr;196176][QUOTE=JodiLeigh;196145]Thank you
She is isn't she!
What do you mean by valley?
I'm new to snakes, she was given to me by my brother who bought her from a pet shop here in England.

ok, it would be a red sided garter then, thamnophis sirtalis parietalis. Valley garters are a different subspecies, thamnophis sirtalis fitchi. the bright solid stripes and row of red spots along the side stripes look more like the valley garter than the typical red sided garter. but I don't think they have valley garters in Europe yet...

That's what I was thinking because the snake in the pictures had very bright stripes but not much red coloring which made me doubt it was a red sided. Maybe EU does have valley snakes now.

[PINJOHN]

Welcome from a mild moist Liverpool

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[gregmonsta]

[QUOTE=GarterGuy17;196177][QUOTE=ssssnakeluvr;196176]

Thank you
She is isn't she!
What do you mean by valley?
I'm new to snakes, she was given to me by my brother who bought her from a pet shop here in England.


That's what I was thinking because the snake in the pictures had very bright stripes but not much red coloring which made me doubt it was a red sided. Maybe EU does have valley snakes now.

They're still completely unheard of here. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they haven't graced these shores (ignorant pet shops, etc). But we do have quite a lot of variation in parietalis here. Everything from high reds to very melanistic 'Northern' specimens.

P.S. - looks like a normal parietalis to me.

[ssssnakeluvr]

I agree.....I doubt any valley garters made it over there yet... the more northern red sided garters are darker with minimal red spots.

[chris-uk]

Welcome from a dull and uninspiring North Lincolnshire (I don't really live in the arse end of nowhere, up here for work for a few days).
I've noticed had to get anything lie bactrin yet, so haven't crossed that bridge, I think the good stuff you may need to get from a vet rather than over the counter.

[mikem]

welcome to the forum! nice little snake you have there

[JodiLeigh]

welcome to the forum! nice little snake you have there

XD Thank you!

[Selkielass]

What a little beauty!
My eastern, Abby also likes to burrow thru my ponytail and then rest her head on the sidepiece of my glasses. This wasn't a problem when she was less than 20 inches long, but now that she's over 30 inches long she knocks the glasses right off my nose!

Last time she was out riding in my hair she finally curled her tail around my collar, burrowed thru my hair and surveyed the world from the top of my head, like the Uraeus on a Pharoahs crown.

[JodiLeigh]

burrowed thru my hair and surveyed the world from the top of my head, like the Uraeus on a Pharoahs crown.

HA HA Yes! That is what I thought he he