I too saw Scott's ad and would like everyone's opinion.

[dieselbaby]

I thought i would add this for all the canadians on the forum who may want to import a great snake from Scott but cant afford the $500 import and shipping costs. I can bring an unlimited number of snakes in for my $350 import fees and fish and wildlife inspection, so i was wondering if anyone else would like to bring in some snakes and split the $350 import fees. You would be responsible for the $50 shipping fee from scott to buffalo new york to reptile express, we would split the $350 however many ways, and you would be responsible for the shipping fee from reptile express in toronto to your destination in canada, as well as 13% hst on the purchase price of the snake(s) you import.

so say someone else wants two baby snakes, it would be $50 to ship from scott to reptile express, then $175(half the import costs), and then tax and shipping from reptile express. we would work it out from there. You would just tell scott to add it to my order and provide him with payment and your info.

Come on Canadian members lets get some of these awesome colored garters into canada. You can pm me if you are interested in buying some snakes from Scott.

[kimbosaur]

I'd participate in the group buy if 4 or 5 more people join in. That would make import fees $58-$70, so total shipping around $120 for me. That's the most I could afford!

You should start a new thread closer to breeding season so that more people would see this! I wouldn't mind helping out with organizing everything (if you would like the help) if it means more people would join in. I live pretty close to Reptile Kings - been there once before.

[ConcinusMan]

Richard may chime in with his experiences with the blue concinnus he kept.

Sorry, I missed this until now. The blue concinnus' are pretty much like any other sirtalis and they (all concinnus') are genetically nearly identical to Pugets. The thing is, nobody is currently producing blue concinnus'. I only just discovered them in the wild in 2010 and there are only a few pair of adults in captivity, which haven't produced any offspring. I believe that Don and Shannon are the only two people that got pairs which were carefully selected for their very blue coloration. Scott doesn't work with concinnus' at all, of any color. Another thing to mention is that with pugets and the blue phase concinnus', there's no guarantees as to how intensely colored, or how blue or greenish they will be if you buy babies. Exeptionally blue pugets or concinnus' are not exactly typical. Often they turn out to just be a pale bluish green or just pale green and there's no way to know which babies will color up as adults. If you're counting on a very blue snake, then I suggest you buy an adult puget that has already colored up because as I said, very intense blue individuals are really the exception and they only occur in a very small part of the total natural range. That goes for concinnus' and pugets.

You know how those diet or "get rich quick" advertisements put fine print that says "results not typical" ? Well, unfortunately, when people show pictures of the blue snakes, they fail to put in fine print "color not typical of this subspecies" and so people get the wrong impression and rush right out to buy a puget, thinking it will be blue, when in fact, most are not.

Just wanted to be clear on that since it seems that the pictures of exceptionally blue pugets on his website, aren't even his.