Ethics question.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I agree 100% richard. I caught a one of a kind blue headed eastern box turtle. I sold it to a friend of mine to breed and he sold it for well over a grand. I didn't get mad that he sold it for that much because it was none of my business once i sold it to him what he done with it. Once you agree to sell an animal for a price it don't matter what the other person sells if for because it's their's. Yeah i knew he was worth a lot of money but i agreed to sell if for the price that i sold it for because i don't breed box turtles. I wanted to release him in the same spot i found him but he was so gorgeous that he has to bred in captivity.

[Sonya610]

I still say that once the owner gives or sells the animal to you, they release all interest in said animal.

It is a gray area especially with regard to rescue and adoption contracts. True, animals are property and the validity of many adoption contracts are questionable, however some how have "penalties" that have been enforced by courts (i.e. the contract states they will not sell or abandon the adopted animal, and if they do there is a $500 penalty).

All that aside the best way to avoid flippers or liars is to do a home check (or threaten to do one) if the person cares about the home the animal will go to. If someone is gathering up animals to resell and lying about their intentions they don't want you visiting their house, and they likely don't want to lie and get caught and have the person they screwed over know where they live.

If I rehome her I will simply insist on doing a "home delivery" as that usually makes unscrupulous people lose interest real fast. I already have one potential person, he has an older male ball python and a large setup, met him at the store that sells feeder rats. I would feel safe dealing with an individual like that as he has a good reputation at the store and a beautiful setup for his current BP.

[Millinex]

It really depends on the person I'm dealing with, however, most of the homes I get my animals from are crappy and don't understand reptile care, so I honestly don't feel bad for rehabbing and reselling and lying flat out to the original owner. Frankly if you provided bad care, you lose all rights to what happens to that animal after it goes into my hands.

[ConcinusMan]

Somebody today on craigslist was offering up a 5 foot albino corn snake. $60 rehoming fee including her setup. So tempting.

[Millinex]

Somebody today on craigslist was offering up a 5 foot albino corn snake. $60 rehoming fee including her setup. So tempting.

The interesting thing, is the adults don't sell as well. I've had a hell of a time getting interest in my adult corn snake, while I've had 8 calls/texts/emails in the last hour about the baby ball python, and both the baby corns sold within a day or so of having them, if you could talk them down to like $30 you'd probably do alright though.. I'm picking up a baby with full setup and extra crap for $20 tomorrow, should make $80 from it.

[ConcinusMan]

Well yeah, I get that. I was talking about it being tempting for me to pay that $60 and keep that snake.

[Millinex]

Oh haha, I can honestly say, after dealing with a few adult corns, they just aren't very fun, I much more enjoy bullsnakes and other pits than corns...

In other news - baby ball pythons... Got a pastel in, and within an hour had 25+ people in line for her, winner.

[Sonya610]

It really depends on the person I'm dealing with, however, most of the homes I get my animals from are crappy and don't understand reptile care, so I honestly don't feel bad for rehabbing and reselling and lying flat out to the original owner. Frankly if you provided bad care, you lose all rights to what happens to that animal after it goes into my hands.

Oh I will agree with that. When I did doberman rescue years ago we would do the same thing to get dogs or puppies out of bad situations, course we never made money.

I once tried to list a couple of pups for adoption on craigstlist and I have to say that site brings in the worst, lots of trollers responding to ads for fun and such, it is really the cesspool of the internet compared to moderated legit sites like ebay.

[ConcinusMan]

Oh haha, I can honestly say, after dealing with a few adult corns, they just aren't very fun, I much more enjoy bullsnakes and other pits than corns...

In other news - baby ball pythons... Got a pastel in, and within an hour had 25+ people in line for her, winner.

Yeah, me too. I think it's safe to say that gopher snakes have proven to be my favorite non-thamnophis snake. I kept quite a few of them during the 1980's. The larger, meaner ones were my favorites.

[Millinex]

For those of you interested, I started a facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mikes...43043395766300 if you'd take a look and toss it some likes or whatnot that would be fantastic, hoping to get myself officially up and running very soon!