A visit to the NY reptile expo!

[mb90078]

One more vote for taking the corn out. Nice looking snake though.

[Ironpriest88]

Hmm, well, if the case is I have to move the corn out, that will suck. I picked up the two of them because the breeder said that there would most likely be no problems in them being all together. That would also mean I would have to build/buy another tank. Unless I split the one I just made in two. Either way I guess, they will have to shack up together for another day or two. The only other tank I have is the feeding tank, and while big enough to hold the corn comfortably, it would last until he grew out of it (no idea how long that would be).

Thing is, the corn has little to no interest in the browns or the garter. The baby garter has this far stayed to himself for the most part. My female brown just stays under the substrate (that's all she did before), its the male brown thats looking around for the corn. >.<

Thanks for the advice and tips guys and gals. Once I put the finishing touches to the cage, enough time will have passed that I could see if they will be calmer together. Though with the size of the cage, I really don't see why they couldn't just stay at opposite ends... it's going to be plenty big enough until the garter/corn get massively bigger.

[drache]

many breeders at expos are out to sell
next time you have a question like that, go to any of the the table of the herpetological society or the rescue, and ask them - they have no interest in giving you wrong info
the corn is going to grow a bit, so I suggest you build something largish for it

[Stefan-A]

It's a very bad idea to house them together. Pantherophis are very closely related to Lampropeltis and are known to eat other reptiles. Especially as babies.

Some members of the tribe Lampropeltini do it throughout their lives.

[guidofatherof5]

Though with the size of the cage, I really don't see why they couldn't just stay at opposite ends... it's going to be plenty big enough until the garter/corn get massively bigger.

Unfortunately you can just tell them to avoid each other. Nature is nature and you are running the risk of something tragic happening. I would suggest building that other enclosure or finding a used aquarium at a yard sale or on Craigslist. I'd even suggest using a plastic tote at this point. Move the non corns out. They don't need the space at this point and it will certainly be less stress on that male brown snake.
You are right in the sense that they might get along but what is the cost if they don't?

[Ironpriest88]

Ok, it's done. The ghost is going to use the feeding tank as a home til I work out something else thats bigger for him. For now I think it will be ok, he has a hide and a the top of the container that he came in is filled with water for him to bath/drink. Later today I will try and post some pictures of both tanks, and then the one I am building.

[Stefan-A]

Excellent.

[guidofatherof5]

Good choice. Thanks.
Looking forward to seeing some pictures.

[Tyrel26]

I kept a corn and 2 garters together for 2 years and had no problems. One garter was just a little smaller than the corn and the other was a baby. They always shared the same hide (even though there were several) and curled up together.

Eventually I had to move and I had to downsize my collection to do so and I sold the 2 garters that lived with the corn and the corn acted very odd for quite some time after. It was clear that she missed her room mates.

BUT there is no doubt a risk, just as there is when you house any 2 snakes together, and this risk may be slightly higher for the same reasons that Stefan-A has already mentioned.

[Ironpriest88]

HAHAHA!!! I got the baby checkered to eat 1/3 a pinky! now to get the corn to eat...